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I have a Model A engine block with Serial #4869355. Vince Falter's website shows it to be made sometime in 1937. I'm wondering if it powered a Baldwin Gleaner combine, or was it made as a replacement block for automotive use? I'm interested in finding out more about what it was used for since it was cast so many years after the end of Model A engine production.
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Is this a diamond block with exhaust valve seat inserts and B cam ?
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yes and should be a small plate with a date on it. behind oil tube as you can see on above motor not sure of the B cam
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All very good questions. I'll have to check the block and report back.
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I can't remember - what was the significance of the Diamond casting?
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Good afternoon...A diamond block was a block built as a replacement block after the last of the Model A's were built. They were built almost up to World War II. If you needed a new block...you could get one from Ford. Ernie in Arizona
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The diamond indicates the casting came from a contractor, not a Ford foundry
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They were also used later in farm and construction implements.
I have one that has an AC # (Allis Chalmers). Everything standard Often those items didn’t have as many hours on them as cars |
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Were the Diamond blocks known to be a better quality casting, or did they posses any other special attributes to make them more desirable than the normal Model A blocks, such as better alloy content?
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lots of info your looking for on this Great site. Thanks to site owner for its use.
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Yes, Vince Falter's website is a treasure trove of Model A info.
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MC, That diamond block was built for you to come across in 2022.
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nkaminar;
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First time I have heard that.
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As far as I've seen, the Baldwin Gleaner pull type combine engines have a "G" prefix on the engine serial number. This is Vince's info and consistent with what I've seen.
https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/gleanerbaldwin.htm Last edited by rotorwrench; 11-21-2022 at 10:13 PM. |
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The engine that is currently in my car has a number that indicates it is a 1934 factory built replacement motor.
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Interesting information about the Gleaner engine numbers beginning with "G" and makes perfect sense in that context. My block has the "A" prefix before the serial number, so I suppose that would make it a replacement block for automotive use.
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I have a Gleaner diamond block. The number is G733
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