Shock absorbers - modern style

[3.6rs]

Shoks arrived today.
I made the brackets and installed everything.
Test drive next week (waiting for some mechanical parts from USA)

[Manager]

I'm half way through putting tube shocks on the rear similar to this. On one off these shock threads someone had a bolt with a shoulder more similar to the origional backing plate bolts but longer. Can't seem to find the right thread. Anyone remember please?

[Synchro909]

3.6ers, Experience tells me that those lower brackets will break at the bend. You may do well to stiffen them.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

3.6ers, Experience tells me that those lower brackets will break at the bend. You may do well to stiffen them.

That's such a thick plate that I can't imaging it bending. The angle of the shock to the plate isn't of such a degree to give much bending pressure, so I'd thick the thickness would support it well.

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by Manager

I'm half way through putting tube shocks on the rear similar to this. On one off these shock threads someone had a bolt with a shoulder more similar to the origional backing plate bolts but longer. Can't seem to find the right thread. Anyone remember please?

There are 2 different lengths of the backing plate bolts. The longer ones that go thru the radius rods should be the right length for mounting the tube shock mounts. (at least in my case they were)

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/ba...te-mount-bolts

[Manager]

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Originally Posted by CarlG

There are 2 different lengths of the backing plate bolts. The longer ones that go thru the radius rods should be the right length for mounting the tube shock mounts. (at least in my case they were)

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/ba...te-mount-bolts

Ahh of course they are. Why didn't I think of that. Thanks Carl, that's what I was looking for.

[3.6rs]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

That's such a thick plate that I can't imaging it bending. The angle of the shock to the plate isn't of such a degree to give much bending pressure, so I'd thick the thickness would support it well.

I agree. With this same thikness I did other things on tractors.

[TomballMottershaw]

on another Shocking note, generally the Model A frame does not have the torsional stiffness to handle much shock stiffness, the frame just twists, you really want a shock that dampens out the tiny vibrations. and I found the new Brattons stock shocks do this well on my car.

[zzlegend]

I will stick my MGB's. A direct bolt on.

[3.6rs]

Nice, but also not cheap if you have to buy them new.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

That's such a thick plate that I can't imaging it bending. The angle of the shock to the plate isn't of such a degree to give much bending pressure, so I'd thick the thickness would support it well.

Time will tell. I thought mine would be good enough too, but no! BTW, mine were the ones that came with the kit from the supplier. Broken, welded and stiffened since.

[DaWizard]

Originally Posted by zzlegend

I will stick my MGB's. A direct bolt on.

Hey zzlegend, did you make the balls for them socks, or were they MGB too?

J.C.

[3.6rs]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Time will tell. I thought mine would be good enough too, but no! BTW, mine were the ones that came with the kit from the supplier. Broken, welded and stiffened since.

Compare the thikness of mine with the kit that are for sale. Also the angle and the way they are bent.

[zzlegend]

Originally Posted by DaWizard

Hey zzlegend, did you make the balls for them socks, or were they MGB too?

J.C.

Bought the balls from one of the model a suppliers and welded them in on the back. Had to heat and bend the arms to line up.

[duke36]

I can't seem to find the Monroe R2045 Shock in the U.S. Does anyone have a replacement part no. for an oil filled tube shock with holes on both ends to fit the vendors' brackets?

[Benson]

Originally Posted by duke36

I can't seem to find the Monroe R2045 Shock in the U.S. Does anyone have a replacement part no. for an oil filled tube shock with holes on both ends to fit the vendors' brackets?

I know several guys that used VW Bug / Type III shocks (same part number for both cars). The early ones were oil with no gas. The cars are similar weights and size.

I sold a front / rear set of NOS VW Type III shocks to Phil Turner several years ago for one of his model As.

He thought that they worked well for him. Front and rear were different rates as I remember.

I bought these in early 70's for my type III and never used them.

Also if you can find them Koni made a very nice set of adjustable non gas shocks for the 69 era VWs.

To adjust:

Unhook one end of shock, collapse all of the way ... engage the notches inside the shock to turn the internal oil needle valves to change dampening.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...=VW+bug+shocks

Note: I did not go through all the sites to see if they had any NON GAS shocks.

Additional note:
Since VW is rear engine and Model A is front engine maybe if you swapped the shock pairs front to rear it might work better from an engine weight standpoint ...

[Afordman31]

This is what came with the kit that I used on my Speedster!

[Hotrodfil]

Originally Posted by zzlegend

I will stick my MGB's. A direct bolt on.

How close to the track rod is the bottom of the shock? Tried fitting them to my Fordor and they touched. Offered them up to the Tourer and there was only an inch of suspension travel before they hit.

[bnchief]

.36 your metal work looks great so far, oil or gas filled shocks will work but need to be engineered to the vehicle. After racing motocross for years you learn a lot about shocks.

[updraught]

The VW Koni adjustable sound like the Special D.
My guess is they would have very little to no compression resistance and adjustable rebound.
Looks like Summit has them. Not cheap being Koni.