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12-08-2017, 02:23 AM | #81 | |
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
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This kit- - is the FORD KIT B6A 9000-B K3 (FORD Unique). BTW- I knew is was not the MERC Kit MGK 66005-AA as the parts list for that specific kit showed two air cleaners. But I did not know it was FORD Specific. Now with that being said (or posted actually), was another kit released by FORD that used the oval air cleaner or was the oval air cleaner used just for the BIRD Kit release? If there was another kit released, did the letter give a Service PN for the oval air cleaner itself? ALSO- Did you ever come across any reference that a separate BIRD Engine Dress-Up Kit (in addition to the BIRD specific kit B6A 9000-B K4) was available (Brite Finish) to explain the chromed oval air cleaner? The FORD MPC of the period (FINAL ISSUE) has deleted much of that info (not PRODUCTION RELEASE LETTER specific).
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
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"Now with that being said (or posted actually), was another kit released by FORD that used the oval air cleaner" The B6A 9000-B K4 was the kit released at the same time as the K3. The K4 kit for the T Birds included the oval air cleaner "or was the oval air cleaner used just for the BIRD Kit release?" Bird kit only ! If there was another kit released, (only the 3 kits released 2 from Ford and 1 from Merc) did the letter give a Service PN for the oval air cleaner itself? The letter only had the engineering number (EDB-9600-B) for the oval air cleaner. It crosses in the Master Cross Reference to part# B6A 9600 H . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kultulz asks "Did you ever come across any reference that a separate BIRD Engine Dress-Up Kit" The Dress Up Kit for T Birds was availiable from the introduction of the 55 Birds till the end of the two seaters production. It is listed on gate sheets as "ENG DRESS KIT" at a cost of $15.00. It consisted of the chrome air cleaner top for the single 4BBL engine,chrome oil breather cap and the Thunderbird aluminum valve covers. While the "ENG DRESS KIT" was also availiable for the 1957 "E" Code setups, the air cleaner (which were a large round unit) were not chromed. There does not seem to be a Service Parts Number for the ENG DRESS KIT. The only reference I can find is on the gate sheets. Apparently it was a factory only offering.Not availiable in the field (except as individual parts) The race kits were compleatly different critters than the dress up kits. I had thought you were previously asking about a dress up kit for the passenger cars which never existed. Dress up kits were availiable only for the T Birds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kultulz asks (in addition to the BIRD specific kit B6A 9000-B K4) was available (Brite Finish) to explain the chromed oval air cleaner?" The oval air cleaners were not chromed in the kit,they were argent. Most got the chromed finish over the years. Hope this helps. Finally pictures of the unobtanium below The chrome one is an XP model. (Ford eXPerimental engineering) That is why the "FRONT" is in block. The argent unit is what came in the B6A 9000-B K4 kit. Hope this helps,Oldmics |
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12-08-2017, 10:50 PM | #83 |
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
Thank you Oldmics, that is some very good info.
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Note- The above was an interpretation of the PRODUCT SERVICE(s) by the article's author. I wish he had included copies of the letters, maybe an abbreviated interpretation of his of the letters to allow others read exactly what the letter(s) stated. _________________________________________ OK, Think I have it somewhat figured out. The B6A 9000-B K3 was for 1956 312 FORD install. It included the unique round filter shown previously with the PUROLATOR AIR FILTER ELEMENT DECAL. The unique ACL Service PN must be included in the instruction sheet(s). The B6A 9600-B K4 was an additional kit to install the K3 on the BIRD, and one of those items was an EDB 9600-B ACL ASM. The large round filter housing must not have fit under the hood of the BIRD so the oval ACL design was released just for this purpose. This answers my questions other than the possible WCFB equipped kits.
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
I must have been typing while you were typing...
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What I meant about the BIRD ENGINE DRESS KIT was not the actual dress kit available on order (most likely offered an OTC kit also) but a 8V OVAL BRITE AIR CLEANER ASM (over 8V oval STD argent) which you have shown
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But, I also discovered these (shown below). So there is something going on. The air cleaner asm. is on a ECZ 9424-C so less chance of a custom made filter asm. I have two references to this air cleaner, one HOLLEY, one CARTER.
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
Oldmics,
Does this mean there were three different air cleaner set ups for the Ford and Merc 260 HP kits ? One single large round that covered both carbs (Purolator), two single rounds (one for each carb), and the oval one pictured above to cover both carbs ? Sal |
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1) The FORD K3 Kit single large round, 2) The FORD K4 Kit single oval, 3) The MERC 66005 Kit listing two separate ACL's 4) The MERC M260 single oval (mtd on ECZ 9424-C MERC specific intake).
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
Sal has it correct - 3 differing air cleaners styles
In the K3 kit was 1- large round Purolator K4 kit had the oval Merc had two helmet looking air cleaners. The oval air cleaner pictured as a Mercury setup is not from the era. It is a modern day "what if" unit that was made by a very fine craftsman that sells on eBay that I know. Oldmics |
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Thank you Oldmics. I didn't think that copper colored one with the M260 decal was correct for an original 260 HP kit for '56 Ford or Merc.
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Can you point me to his store?
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
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Now, to start beating the drums in the jungle... As far as the mysterious 56 MERC 8V w CARTERS. This was supposedly a distinct separate kit and must have used the 56 FORD 8V intake. EDIT- Or, FORD had the ACL vendor fabricate a longer housing for this application. There were supposedly fifty kits released directly before the 1956 DARLINGTON 500 (that would have made the application NASCAR compliant). It cannot be said (IMO) that this never happened as there is no documentation. There is no known documentation and no documentation reputing the additional kit. The documentation will be found in BILL STROPPE, HOLMAN-MOODY history and/or FORD Service Letter release(s). This is the last detail I need to find as I have gathered a wealth of FYB info here, and I am deeply grateful to all.
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Re: E code Air cleaner housing
Here is a picture of a genuine Air Cleaner on an unrestored 1957 Ford Thunderbird. Absolute pristine condition in every department. |
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I answered this gentleman's question incorrectly-
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EDIT - CORRECTION!
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The 8V 56 MERC 8V one piece oval ACL was unique in it's appearance as compared to the oval 56 BIRD 8V oval ACL release. This is indifferent to the debate of it's actually being FORD VENDOR released or later fabrication.
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NEW REFERENCE FOUND
I came across the below article while carousing with my browser. Let the games and debates begin... ARTICLE- http://ctcc9.blogspot.com/2013/02/e-code-engine.html
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What would you like to discuss about that article ?
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