Town Car Deliveries

[eystein]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

Yes, a straight windshield '30 TCD exists.

It was exhibited at the 2018 Model A Day at the MAFFI Museum.

Any photos from that event showing the car ?

[Roadster62]

Thank you WTSHNN, that Special Delivery was from the Swigert Collection if anyone is keeping track of those things. It is a nice untouched vehicle, I found the remains of one at the Town Dump back in the 1960's. Sold the drivers door window regulator about 5 years ago to someone that never dreamed of finding one. Bob

[Tinbasher]

So back to the question. It looks like 4 are still known of.

[Cape Codder]

I had the privilege of seeing Tim Kellys Tow Car Delivery at a New England meet several years ago. What I saw was a sliding door between the driver and the rear compartment. Also his had only one seat in the drivers compartment. Are these two different models of a TCD?

[nikname]

To the best of my knowledge, all TCDs have a partition between the driver and the rear compartment with a sliding door, as well as a single seat for the driver.

[WTSHNN]

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Originally Posted by Cape Codder

Are these two different models of a TCD?

Technically yes; the '30 straight windshield and the '31 slant windshield but the interiors were the same.

Like Jeff said; a sliding door separating cockpit and cargo area as well as a single driver's seat.

The red car posted earlier in this thread is a tribute vehicle with many inaccurate details; including the dual front seats and the stationary partition. It is the unfortunate side effect of creating an interpretation of an actual production vehicle; people see it and think that is how an original is.

-Tim

[Joop]

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As you have one Jeff could you post some pictures. Thanks

[eystein]

The "Ford Model A as Henry Built It" book states that the town car delivery had an all aluminum body.

I would assume that applies only to the package compartment, and that the front doors and cowl are modified from slant windshield Town Sedans and consequently are made out of steel.

Can anybody confirm/clarify ?

What about the subframe of the TCD ? Is it wood, steel or aluminum ?

[duke36]

How many '30 deluxe deliveries (bottom left) were produced ?

[jimalabam]

Roy Frost has been deceased for some, and his son was in charge of selling of Roy's collection. I don't know what has become pf Roy's TCD, if anything...

[Brad in Germany]

The "tribute" 1931 Ford Model A Town Car Delivery that was in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, The Netherlands is again for sale online. It just popped up on Pre-War Cars:


https://www.prewarcar.com/323749-for...-delivery-1931



This "tribute" Town Car Delivery has been bouncing around the internet for the last several years:

It was a no-sale in the first Den Hartogh Ford museum auction (September 2014) for 13,800 Euro (https://www.bva-auctions.com/en/auct.../4319146?pid=0) .

It was then offered for sale at the Bonhams Den Hartogh Ford Museum auction (June 2018) and sold for 14,950 Euro (https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25077/lot/103/).

It then popped up for sale again in at www.kenniscars.nl (in January 2019) for 23,500 Euro (https://www.kenniscars.nl/3084606/2149/)

... and now is listed for sale by Juri Castricum Collector Cars (April 2021) on www.Prewrcars.com (https://www.prewarcar.com/323749-for...-delivery-1931) with an asking price of again 23,500 Euro.

Brad in Maryland

[mercman from oz]

These Model A Ford Town Car Deliveries are certainly great looking old Fords.

[Oldbluoval]

“The tribute Town Car Delivery......”
I get a charge out of this term especially on B-J auctions. Often used on converted GTO etc
To me it equates to fake, knock-off, etc.
However as long as identified as such there’s no ruse or deception one can enjoy as they see fit!

[eystein]

Anyone in the know of Town Car Deliveries that could answer my question ?

The "Ford Model A as Henry Built It" book states that the town car delivery had an all aluminum body.

I would assume that applies only to the package compartment, and that the front doors and cowl are modified from slant windshield Town Sedans and consequently are made out of steel.

Can anybody confirm/clarify ?

What about the subframe of the TCD ? Is it wood, steel or aluminum ?

[Brad in Germany]

Originally Posted by eystein

Anyone in the know of Town Car Deliveries that could answer my question ?

The "Ford Model A as Henry Built It" book states that the town car delivery had an all aluminum body.

I would assume that applies only to the package compartment, and that the front doors and cowl are modified from slant windshield Town Sedans and consequently are made out of steel.

Can anybody confirm/clarify ?

What about the subframe of the TCD ? Is it wood, steel or aluminum ?

.....here, this might help:



Brad in Maryland

[eystein]

Originally Posted by Brad in Germany

.....here, this might help:



Brad in Maryland

Brad,

Thanks for replying, but I think that you have forgotten a link or an attachment.

Eystein

[eystein]

One thing that puzzles me when I look at the rear body of the TCD, is that the metal appears to be one continuous sheet metal stamping all the way around the rear body from door to door. I believe that the roof of the rear compartment is a wire mesh/long-short grain covering construction.
Still, it cannot be possible that all the sheet metal around the car is one piece. The deluxe deliveries and the sedans were made in separate pieces bolted together at the rear. I cannot find such construction on the TCD.

Was all the TCD rear body sheet aluminum welded together during assembly?

[Oldbluoval]

I was involved with one a
Long time ago
Yes the doors and cowl are same as slants but there are differences. The header is different from cabby and a400
The rear section is aluminum and the sills are wooden much like the deluxe delivery.
They are one of a kind with lots of similarities. I do not remember if the rear door skin was aluminum or not
Dan Shady in Huntsville did Roy Frosts and had a multitude of pics at one time. His son Deron Is on here occasionally

[Oldbluoval]

The rear body shell came apart at the belt line
However that leaves a lot of forming for those panels and the rear section adjoining thereto

[eystein]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

The rear body shell came apart at the belt line
However that leaves a lot of forming for those panels and the rear section adjoining thereto

Thanks, that makes sense, and seems to correspond to what is in the body parts list (see lines highlighted in photo) However, there is no mention of a Left-hand vs Right-hand part.

It seems next to unbelievable that both the upper part and the lower part are continuous stampings all around the car. One would have expected to see a vertical seam at the back. Was there a weld seam somewhere at the back of the car ?