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Please feel free to start another. BTW; do you have any of these hubcaps pictured below you would like to sell?
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01-02-2016, 11:59 AM | #63 |
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Re: The rarest Ford hubcap in existence
I believe the wide 5 pattern on the 3/4 ton trucks stopped in '41. The '42 3/4 ton had the same bolt pattern as the tonner except it used 1/2" lug bolts instead of 3/4" bolts as in the tonner. I have seen at least 1 '42-'47 3/4 ton and it did not have the wide 5 pattern and I as I interpret the parts book, it bears this out. So, this hub cap would be for a '41 3/4 ton or earlier. This has been an enjoyable thread.
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01-02-2016, 12:04 PM | #64 |
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The green parts book shows the same 3/4 ton wheel 39-47.
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01-02-2016, 12:08 PM | #65 |
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At 35FordTN
You are correct in that BOTH Ford/Mercury Hub caps are very "rare" if you will BUT with in this strata......We have seen three sets of the Ford/Mercury cap in the center of MercManfromOz's picture (small Diameter cap)...one set we passed on buying back in 1975 in Atlanta at a Early Ford V8 Meet, one set that wasn't for sale and the third set on our 39 Mercury Town Sedan. There is also one on display in the EFV8 Foundation Museum. The "FULL" SS Ford/Mercury caps that MercmanfromOz posted are the rarest of the rare...we have only seen two sets. MercmanfromOZ's and one other set. I'll still contend on this thread they are the "Rarest Ford Cap"!!! |
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01-02-2016, 02:29 PM | #67 |
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Bob C, You are correct, the wide 5 wheel WAS used on the '39-'47 3/4 ton. I'm not sure now how I arrived at my assumption. I did see a 3/4 ton with a small pattern, I guess the axles had been changed. Thanks for the correction, I learned something new today.
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01-02-2016, 02:33 PM | #68 |
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Very well could be. I removed it from a customers 36 Ford. I also have 3 36 Ford hub caps off the same car. A couple of them are pretty good shape.
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01-02-2016, 03:18 PM | #69 |
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My lawyer said I can continue to call the 3/4 ton caps the rarest because I didn't mention Mercury or Lincoln.
Here is why I came to the conclusion that the 3/4 ton hubcaps are so rare. I have here 29 1940 and 1941-47 one ton hubcaps, 7 of which are NOS. If the 3/4 ton cap was easy or even difficult to find I would have more than two. The small hubcap in the foreground center of the photo is a 40 DLX for size comparison. Where are the Fordbarn owners of 3/4 ton pickups? Can someone give production numbers from 1939 to 1947 3/4 ton year by year? I now remember having my hands on one 39 3/4 ton in a junk yard, the scrap man bought it at the auction. |
01-02-2016, 03:34 PM | #70 |
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According to Ford literature the hubcap for a 1939 3/4 ton would be the same hubcap as 1939 Standard car, same for 1940 3/4 ton truck. 1941 thru 1947 3/4 ton would take the cap shown in post #1. One ton trucks 1941-47 take the cap shown in post 69 with Ford script, one of the NOS Ford script caps has a part tag with 11Y prefix.
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01-02-2016, 04:21 PM | #71 |
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NOSPARTSMAN, that is a fantastic collection of these Tonner Hubcaps. |
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Here are figures from Lorin Sorensen's "The Commercial Fords" on the 3/4 T pickups-
1939 3,817 1940 3,002 1941 through 1946- Production records incomplete 1947 29,343 produced, but Sorensen notes that for '46-'47 only the 1 T truck was offered, no 3/4 T. In addition, the 3/4 and 1 T trucks were known as Express trucks, built on a 122" WB chassis.
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01-02-2016, 05:31 PM | #73 |
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Holy Cow nospartsman!!! Why didn't you show those before Christmas? I need some so expect a pm. Holy freakin cow..... Oh wait I should curb my enthusiasm before you tell me the price.
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01-02-2016, 06:15 PM | #74 |
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Do the figures break down the number of flatbreads vs pickups for 39
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01-02-2016, 07:00 PM | #75 |
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Looking at your avatar I think you have a 112" WB Platform truck. The book mentions no production figures available for 1938-'39 models. Sorry.
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Mercman from OZ, The collection of one ton caps is the reason I went out on a limb and called the 1941-47 3/4 ton Ford script cap the rarest. I didn't include Lincoln and Mercury. If I can find the tonnner caps, which aren't too plentiful, but I never see any of the Ford script 1941-47 3/4 ton caps they must be scarce. It's begining to make sense with Fordors helpful production figures.
Every year at Hershey I will see one or two of the accessory 1939 Mercury large hubaps (might be the same vendors every year). Some of my die-hard 39/40 Mercury friends have one or two of the 39 Merc accessory large caps hanging on their shop wall. The last complete set of 39 Merc accessory caps, that I saw, was offered at a regional V8 meet by Duane Hammond several years ago. I do agree with you that the rarest Mercury cap is the 39 Ford/Mercury accessory large cap. The Lincoln large accessory cap on the left is also pretty scarce. |
01-02-2016, 07:56 PM | #77 |
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Ya my avatar is a one ton 47. I have a 39 also along with a 41 commercial 1/2 ton pu
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01-02-2016, 08:19 PM | #78 | |
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If it's not too much trouble what were the production numbers of one ton trucks 1941 through 1947. Thanks, Paul American Parts |
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01-02-2016, 08:27 PM | #79 |
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Sorry I can't help with caps shown, my limited knowledge ends with 1948. I'm guessing those are accessory 49 or 50 maybe. What are they?
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1 T Express, 122" WB
1941 Production records incomplete 1942 No figures shown, but Sorensen estimated 40% of '41 output. 1942 through 1946- Production records incomplete 1947 29,343 Not much help I'm afraid.
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