Burtzs block

[nkaminar]

I am so glad there are people in our hobby that spend the time and money to restore cars to as-new. It is very important to document history this way. But at this point in my life I do not the patience, resources, or money to do this myself. So I solute the 100 pointer's.

[updraught]

Originally Posted by David in San Antonio

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

Back in the eighties, while going over the HMAS Victory, they said that 10% was original. It seems to have been infested with many bugs and beetles since.

[larrys40]

Originally Posted by fredski53

Well, if I was to enter the car with the Burtz engine and didn’t tell anyone and the car scored high, wouldn’t that be “cheating “? Doesn’t seem right to me to fool the judges with a non-original engine just because on the outside it looks like the real deal. Just saying.

Actually years ago Roger Kaufman who mentored me on my first fine pint judging volunteer experience told me it that if using repro parts that “fooling the judges “ is just fine and making sure the prts were accurate enough to pass for an original parts as produced . The reality is that none of these cars would be what they are today rebuilt mechanically or cosmetically without reproctiom parts. They can be restored fully with original parts but availability and restoration wise would be enormously difficult.

The details are what counts. I’ve heard of the fine point Burtz block scoring and think that it’s incredible that the engine is so well done that once a few details are refined rhqt it is that good. Kudos to Terry Burtz !
Whatever your decision is to use the new block or not we are blessed with options that make these cars more driveable today and restorable ( to multiple standards ) than what would be possible otherwise.
Be thankful for the resources we have and those that produce them so we have them available to us.
Larry Shepard

[ModelA29]

Originally Posted by Terry Burtz, Calif

Congratulations. Your hearing is amazing because you can tell the difference when an original camshaft, 63-pound flywheel, original low compression head, and stock manifolds are used to build the new engine.

But with your new counter weighted crank it won't shake like an original......

[rackops]

Originally Posted by updraught

Back in the eighties, while going over the HMAS Victory, they said that 10% was original. It seems to have been infested with many bugs and beetles since.

When I tracked down the fellow who found my 1928 Phaeton and restored it the first time in 1960, he made the comment about the car: "It can be likened to George Washington’s axe : “same axe, just 3 new heads and 5 new handles.”

After all, the car was _technically_ still the same, even though it had its third replacement engine and considerable amounts of replaced wood in the subframe (and who knows what else...).

Interestingly enough, the engine that was in the car when he got it off the farm was a replacement, as I later found the frame number showing the car was quite a bit earlier than originally thought. I now have another engine that I plan to use as the car's fourth replacement...

[WHN]

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Originally Posted by updraught

Back in the eighties, while going over the HMAS Victory, they said that 10% was original. It seems to have been infested with many bugs and beetles since.

My last visit to USS Constitution, I was also told that less than 10% of the ship was original.

😊

[TomInCologne]

…or, if you are philosophically interested:

ship of Theseus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

[WHN]

Originally Posted by TomInCologne

…or, if you are philosophically interested:

ship of Theseus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

I’m impressed!