The Ford Barn

sugarmaker · 12-21-2021, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKS.PA

Chris, so amazing to have found a "flathead buddie" right there in your town of Albion!!! And, so, the learning continues!!! Certainly could have used that when I lived in the southeastern part of your state!!

RSK, PA,
John had to hunt me down after he saw my split rims at the tire shop. We have hit it off well!
Regards,
Chris

sugarmaker · 12-24-2021, 04:18 PM

Folks,
"42 Deluxe" working on his 59A-B engine and heads. He even surprised me that the hidden bolt inside the water pumps came right out with out a fight!

General clean up and inspection of one of the heads:

Good job John!

Regards,
Chris

sugarmaker · 12-28-2021, 06:06 PM

Folks,
John came over and worked at cleaning, more cleaning, and measuring on his 59A-B engine planned for his 42 Deluxe.
Some random pictures of his progress, as the evaluation proceeds. Just trying to capture those special moments for him!

Regards,
Chris

Bored&Stroked · 12-30-2021, 09:08 AM

He should really pull the thing apart, check the bearings, clean out the oil-pan, check the valves/seats, etc..

I'd probably put a 49-53 oil pump in it - with a pickup from Speedway. It is STD bore - so that is excellent!

sugarmaker · 12-30-2021, 10:19 AM

Dale, Folks,
I believe that is a portion of John's plan. Further evaluation of the 59A-B engine will continue. I was also surprised that it was std bore size.
Regards,
Chris

Bored&Stroked · 12-30-2021, 11:08 AM

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Or tell him to send it to me (with about $6000) and I'll increase its HP just a bit! LOL

1942deluxe · 02-08-2022, 10:16 PM

Looking at my 48 it looks like the engine has the wrong crankshaft pulley? Should be a two belt pulley?

1942deluxe · 03-08-2022, 01:36 PM

Does a Bob Drake fuel tank for the 1941-48's accept a stock sending unit? Is there a way to adapt one if it doesn't. Planning on staying with 6 Volts.

sugarmaker · 03-26-2022, 08:30 PM

Folks,
Had the chance to go with John (42 Deluxe) and his wife to pick up some parts for their 42 project at Charlie NY's place. A nice ride up I-90. I took some pictures while we were there too.
We were all impressed that several of the parts that Charlie worked on for John were on his engine on the test stand. Charlie fired it up with the fuel pump and the carb.
The transmission was on the bench with the side cover off for review and was buttoned up while we watched.

That nice 32 pickup of Charlies. I like it and his 41 also!

Regards,
Chris

Charlie ny · 03-27-2022, 10:37 AM

A wonderful morning it was John Kelley and the lovely Kathy along with Sugarmaker
Chris visited Sat AM and picker up some goodies John had me rebuild. Once my calendar
allows Alice and I will head down to Albion Pa to check out the 'action' at Sugarmaker's.
Charlie ny

sugarmaker · 03-27-2022, 03:38 PM

Charlie,
We look forward to your visit too! Always a class act at Charlies place for sure!
Regards,
Chris

1942deluxe · 03-27-2022, 09:24 PM

Charlie, my wife seemed to really enjoy meeting you and the tour of the shop. When we got home she took pictures of everything you had rebuilt. I'm thinking she is working on evidence for my commitment hearing. After being with me for 41 years I'm sure she could make an open and shut case!

edhd58 · 03-29-2022, 04:48 PM

I will love following this ride being brought back.
I had the opportunity to purchase this very car from him a few months back and chickened out.
I was told by a cousin that knew what this was, after the fact of course, that I was a crazy man for passing on this one.
Best of luck to you sir, please keep us in the know.

fortyonerag · 03-30-2022, 02:59 AM

Handsome car! I'll watch this one too as I'm looking down under for a 59 or 99-AB for my 41.

Thanks for sharing.

sugarmaker · 05-29-2022, 09:08 AM

Folks,
I visited with John as he was working on his brake systems. Took a few pictures and he had a question about the shocks. Here are the shock pictures. Any input would help him understand more about these shock units.

Rear shock:

Front shock:

Here he has the front brakes completed.

He is looking forward to geting his rebuilt Flathead into the car this summer. Lots of work remains, but he is making good progress on his 42 Deluxe coupe.

Regards,
Chris

tubman · 05-29-2022, 09:37 AM

I don't think those are Ford shocks. I bought a '36 3-window one time that had shocks like that and the guy I bought it from said they were off a GM product. I Immediately replaced them with a set of tube shocks.

19Fordy · 05-29-2022, 10:55 AM

Really nice car and project.
Just wondering.......will using an air driven Roloc dosk to clean the deck and heads create surfaces that are no longer level when you lay a staright edge across them to check for "flatness".

1942deluxe · 05-29-2022, 01:48 PM

19Fordy, engine builder is plaining(spelling?) the heads. I thought about that after word... shocks I think are Delco (GM). Spacing for mounts appears to be about the same as the Ford shocks of which I have NOS. Just curious as to as if that was a substitution because of shortages or something replaced along the way.

meric42 · 05-29-2022, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1942deluxe

Something on the car a little bit odd: LH headlamp bezel is painted steel (black). The RH
bezel is stainless and was painted black when I got the car. It has been mentioned that there isn't any documentation of a "black out" car. Maybe that gives a little bit of evidence. Car still has the engine shields and seems to be unmolested. There's an oil change sticker from 1975 that is 6,000 miles less than it's showing now. To use an Iowa expression perhaps "rode hard and put out wet" but stored inside since the late 70's.

I believe many of the later '42's had a mix of painted parts, some mild steel some stainless steel, but all painted. I think it depends what the assembly line had on hand at the time. I've seen some cars with mixed side trim all painted to comply with directives to reduce bright work on vehicles during the end of civilian wartime production.

1942deluxe · 05-29-2022, 05:06 PM

I cleaned a shock really good, and it was inscribed "Delco made in Dayton USA". 100% agree Meric. No firm rules on 42's. Glass date bugs indicate 9/41. I found 10 16 41 on 3 of the 4 rims. There is KC (Kansas City?) stamped on the RF area of the firewall. I'm guessing late October or early November build. My thought was those poor people had no idea how bad things were going to become.

12-24-2021, 04:18 PM	#22
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,790	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Folks, "42 Deluxe" working on his 59A-B engine and heads. He even surprised me that the hidden bolt inside the water pumps came right out with out a fight! General clean up and inspection of one of the heads: Good job John! Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

12-28-2021, 06:06 PM	#23
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,790	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Folks, John came over and worked at cleaning, more cleaning, and measuring on his 59A-B engine planned for his 42 Deluxe. Some random pictures of his progress, as the evaluation proceeds. Just trying to capture those special moments for him! Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets Last edited by sugarmaker; 12-28-2021 at 06:31 PM.

12-30-2021, 09:08 AM	#24
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,723	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project He should really pull the thing apart, check the bearings, clean out the oil-pan, check the valves/seats, etc.. I'd probably put a 49-53 oil pump in it - with a pickup from Speedway. It is STD bore - so that is excellent!

12-30-2021, 10:19 AM	#25
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,790	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Dale, Folks, I believe that is a portion of John's plan. Further evaluation of the 59A-B engine will continue. I was also surprised that it was std bore size. Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

12-30-2021, 11:08 AM	#26
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,723	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Or tell him to send it to me (with about $6000) and I'll increase its HP just a bit! LOL

02-08-2022, 10:16 PM	#27
1942deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 986	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Looking at my 48 it looks like the engine has the wrong crankshaft pulley? Should be a two belt pulley?

03-08-2022, 01:36 PM	#28
1942deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 986	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Does a Bob Drake fuel tank for the 1941-48's accept a stock sending unit? Is there a way to adapt one if it doesn't. Planning on staying with 6 Volts.

03-26-2022, 08:30 PM	#29
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,790	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Folks, Had the chance to go with John (42 Deluxe) and his wife to pick up some parts for their 42 project at Charlie NY's place. A nice ride up I-90. I took some pictures while we were there too. We were all impressed that several of the parts that Charlie worked on for John were on his engine on the test stand. Charlie fired it up with the fuel pump and the carb. The transmission was on the bench with the side cover off for review and was buttoned up while we watched. That nice 32 pickup of Charlies. I like it and his 41 also! Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

03-27-2022, 10:37 AM	#30
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project A wonderful morning it was John Kelley and the lovely Kathy along with Sugarmaker Chris visited Sat AM and picker up some goodies John had me rebuild. Once my calendar allows Alice and I will head down to Albion Pa to check out the 'action' at Sugarmaker's. Charlie ny

03-27-2022, 03:38 PM	#31
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,790	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Charlie, We look forward to your visit too! Always a class act at Charlies place for sure! Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

03-27-2022, 09:24 PM	#32
1942deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 986	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Charlie, my wife seemed to really enjoy meeting you and the tour of the shop. When we got home she took pictures of everything you had rebuilt. I'm thinking she is working on evidence for my commitment hearing. After being with me for 41 years I'm sure she could make an open and shut case!

03-29-2022, 04:48 PM	#33
edhd58 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Guston,ky Posts: 654	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project I will love following this ride being brought back. I had the opportunity to purchase this very car from him a few months back and chickened out. I was told by a cousin that knew what this was, after the fact of course, that I was a crazy man for passing on this one. Best of luck to you sir, please keep us in the know.

03-30-2022, 02:59 AM	#34
fortyonerag Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 620	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Handsome car! I'll watch this one too as I'm looking down under for a 59 or 99-AB for my 41. Thanks for sharing.

05-29-2022, 09:08 AM	#35
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,790	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Folks, I visited with John as he was working on his brake systems. Took a few pictures and he had a question about the shocks. Here are the shock pictures. Any input would help him understand more about these shock units. Rear shock: Front shock: Here he has the front brakes completed. He is looking forward to geting his rebuilt Flathead into the car this summer. Lots of work remains, but he is making good progress on his 42 Deluxe coupe. Regards, Chris __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

05-29-2022, 09:37 AM	#36
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 11,633	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project I don't think those are Ford shocks. I bought a '36 3-window one time that had shocks like that and the guy I bought it from said they were off a GM product. I Immediately replaced them with a set of tube shocks.

05-29-2022, 10:55 AM	#37
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,604	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project Really nice car and project. Just wondering.......will using an air driven Roloc dosk to clean the deck and heads create surfaces that are no longer level when you lay a staright edge across them to check for "flatness".

05-29-2022, 01:48 PM	#38
1942deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 986	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project 19Fordy, engine builder is plaining(spelling?) the heads. I thought about that after word... shocks I think are Delco (GM). Spacing for mounts appears to be about the same as the Ford shocks of which I have NOS. Just curious as to as if that was a substitution because of shortages or something replaced along the way. Last edited by 1942deluxe; 05-29-2022 at 02:04 PM. Reason: more information

05-29-2022, 05:06 PM	#40
1942deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 986	Re: 1942 Ford deluxe coupe project I cleaned a shock really good, and it was inscribed "Delco made in Dayton USA". 100% agree Meric. No firm rules on 42's. Glass date bugs indicate 9/41. I found 10 16 41 on 3 of the 4 rims. There is KC (Kansas City?) stamped on the RF area of the firewall. I'm guessing late October or early November build. My thought was those poor people had no idea how bad things were going to become.