Did I screw up? Title Issues? Washington

[Frank The Plumber]

Actually per the post by Brum. To get a bonded title you post a bond. The bond only covers the State position on your car title. Your position is still up for question for 3 years from the date of state title issue. After 3 years the law says that if none claim on your ownership that their legal statute to make such claims expire after 3 years. If during that 3 year period your owner ship position can have a legal challenge to it and your position is lost, the legal owner is disbursed through the funding power of the bond. You personally will be liable to reimburse the bonding agency for the bond disbursement. To get this bond you give them all of your info, you give them the legal right to seize any and all items that you posses to reimburse themselves. It is in no way an insurance policy. If it can be proven that the vehicle is a stolen, the 3 years do not apply, the crime erases the period and the property can still be seized, many years later. Not kids stuff, very serious.

[Keith True]

Brum 1,All states are different.N.H. is a non-title state after 15 years old.Titles were not even issued here until about the middle of 1964,then only for new cars.We can drag a car out of a barn,get a bill of sale made out on anything,if there is no copy of an old registration we have to get a verification of VIN.Can be filled out by any police employee,dealer,inspection station,JP,almost anybody with some kind of title.We also go by the Branham bible,that was issued to the towns showing the locations of serial numbers for all the cars and trucks.The page for the Model A states the engine serial number is also the car serial number.They don't have to look any further than that.The local cops will call me on the nextel asking,where is the serial number on a 48 Federal? Or on a Crosley?I look in my book and tell them.The town clerk actually had these books,when they went computer she was told all the vehicle info would be in the computer programs.The software whizzes considered 20 years to be old.I happened to be at the dump when the books were tossed,so I scoffed them up.By the time the town clerk had realized the mistake it was too late.I offered them back,but they decided that I could warehouse them better than them and if they need a GVW for an old car they just call me.The cops say you old car guys know way more about these cars than us,so just jump up there and read me the numbers.I have a bill of sale written on the back of a trapping permit.Because of the problems with selling to other states and some insurance companies N.H. now allows us to title cars 26 years and older by request.NO titles are issued for cars between 15 and 25 years old.If no old copy of a registration is available we have to fill out a verification of VIN,and an affidavit of ownership.Kind of a dumb piece of paper. I swear that I own this vehicle,signed under penalty of law.A notary pinches it with the nutcracker for $2.and you send it in with the title app.A week later you have a title stamped,

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Hitchhiker

I recently bought a model a pickup project with title. I bought it from an older man that has owned it since 1951 and the title is in his name and signed. It does not list the serial number on the title, but it does list a motor number. I went to tranfer the title, but the DMV no longer has a record of the title. They made a copy of it, and gave it back to me. They told me the title would need to be "restored" in the system. Basically it hadn't ever been entered into the electronic system. The DMZ lady was actually really helpful and told me to return next week and it should be in the system by then. She didn't really think there was any problem. Does this seem correct? I'm wondering if they are going to spring some paper work BS when I go in again. Did I just get hosed? Am I going to have to get it inspected? Thanks.

Matt,
Ever hear "honest is the best policy"? Ask questions of DMV, and as your doing here, then go with your gut feeling to do what's honest(sometimes the most work) and you'll be fine. The worst advice you'll get is to try to sell/do something to make a buck and further someone else's illegal intentions to use something you sell(i.e.-title).
You say that it's a 'project' vehicle. Now is the time to get that number off of the chassis while it's apart. Main reason is that the engine is in all likelihood DIFFERENT from factory and chassis number is only constant. Let's say that the chassis/engine numbers match..yoohoo! But, the engine is JUNK..now what? You have to put in another engine, but cannot legally stamp the original number on the new engine. Your chassis original stamp (take a pic of it) will be on the new registration , whether you change engines ten times! Look for chassis number under left front fender area/vacinity. Good luck and have fun.

[Hitchhiker]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Matt,
Ever hear "honest is the best policy"? Ask questions of DMV, and as your doing here, then go with your gut feeling to do what's honest(sometimes the most work) and you'll be fine. The worst advice you'll get is to try to sell/do something to make a buck and further someone else's illegal intentions to use something you sell(i.e.-title).
You say that it's a 'project' vehicle. Now is the time to get that number off of the chassis while it's apart. Main reason is that the engine is in all likelihood DIFFERENT from factory and chassis number is only constant. Let's say that the chassis/engine numbers match..yoohoo! But, the engine is JUNK..now what? You have to put in another engine, but cannot legally stamp the original number on the new engine. Your chassis original stamp (take a pic of it) will be on the new registration , whether you change engines ten times! Look for chassis number under left front fender area/vacinity. Good luck and have fun.

I pulled the body off this morning And just ran the numbers. Chassis is a 31 chassis going by serial #. No doubt it's just a 80 year old truck that has seen a few repairs over the years.

[brum1]

Keith-Great Story from New Hampshire,

"Live free or die"

[hardtimes]

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Originally Posted by Hitchhiker

I pulled the body off this morning And just ran the numbers. Chassis is a 31 chassis going by serial #. No doubt it's just a 80 year old truck that has seen a few repairs over the years.

Matt, good for you in finding/locating the numbers!
Might be a good time to have an officer look/verify and notate such for the record! I went thru this exact same process, here in Calif. It sure felt good to have the DMV supervising CHP officer(an old car owner to boot) make it official. And , when you see that chassis number on the registration...you will have a grin on your face!!
BTW Matt when I say the 'exact same process as your situation:
My '30 roadster had a 'blown up' '30 engine in it when I purchased it NOT with the same number as the chassis number! The registration had this blown engine # on it, BUT identified the vehicle as a '29 ford roadster
Now properly registered with '30 frame/chassis number as '30 roadster and a new RUSSIAN B block Good luck

[Hitchhiker]

thanks for all the info guys. Sounds, like I'll be fine. I was just a little worried last night. The title for my new truck is twice as old as I am.....

[metalho]

Originally Posted by jw hash

Matt you should get your title Do NOT tell the dmv that the numbers do not match, get the title in your name the number be handled, if you raise a flag in this state you are asking for trouble. John in Auburn

Ditto, play dumb.

[fordcragar]

You shouldn't have any problems, just don't offer any information, unless you have to.

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

Matt ,You should NOT have any problems because you already have the Title. Good luck.

[Grapejuice]

No doubt; if every A had to be numbers matching to register it, there would be about 5 of them on the road.

[Hitchhiker]

Originally Posted by metalho

Ditto, play dumb.

I don't know what you are talking about....