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1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 01:04 PM

I have look throw that couple times

the bad part the stock input shaft is 6 7/8 and my s10 is 6 1/2 so my input shaft is to short with the adapter that is around 3/4 or so going have to try some thing else

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 01:05 PM

if I can find a longer input shaft I be ok

Marv · 03-19-2017, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1931flathead

if I can find a longer input shaft I be ok

Check a Ford T5 shaft. I think they are 9 inches

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 02:00 PM

S 10 are 9 and a quarter long

JSeery · 03-19-2017, 03:08 PM

Some stuff I have collected.

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 05:06 PM

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I looked and still can't find a longer input I will have to go and put a tape to his transmission
maybe ol' ron will chim in here

rotorwrench · 03-19-2017, 05:15 PM

A thinner adapter plate should take up any input problems. There is bound to be someone on the web that has done this before. There are plenty of entries for T5s on the HAMB and on here plus all the other sites available. Your basically looking to use the same or similar clutch release set up that the 52 & 53 cars came with and I'm sure it's been done before. the Ford shoe boxes up through the 52 & 53 Mainline/Crestline all use a similar clutch release system. The 52 & 53 Mercs are in the same grouping too.

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 05:17 PM

ron did one but he used a ford t5 maybe the input shat is longer

40cpe · 03-19-2017, 06:25 PM

I have a transmission number 1352-010 that has a 7 1/8" input shaft from the front of the transmission case. It came from an early S10 V6. You have to be careful reading the tape so far from the shaft.

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 07:06 PM

Just and took mine out it is shorter then what it should be

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 07:12 PM

pics are not the best the first one is from the front of the case with the nose cone gone and the number 2 is sitting down on something flat

they are 6 1/2 and little over 8 1/2

V8COOPMAN · 03-19-2017, 08:23 PM

If you want any rational information and help sorting this out, you first need to send some carefully thought-out pictures. You also need to start explaining things in complete, comprehensive sentences. ACCURATE measurements are an absolute must. Right now, we ain't got a clue WHAT you have, nor what length input shaft you THINK you need. How many splines are on the T5 input shaft you have? How many teeth on it's gear?

Also, you must keep in mind that you can't just change input shafts without considering the TOOTH COUNT. There are several different gear sets and gear counts available in the various T5s. Also, have you considered the diameter of the big hole in the center of your bellhousing? Does it's diameter match with your bearing retainer, and/or your plate adapter?

Do you have bucket seats, or a bench seat? It makes a difference with the location of the shifter on the tailshaft housing. This alone may determine whether the S-10 trans is a wise choice for your application. TOO many guys go and buy an S-10 trans 'cuz they've "heard" that that's "THE" trans to put in a hot rod, not knowing WHY that may (or may NOT) be a wise choice, including gearset ratios.

This can all be figured-out......IF you approach it slowly, and with complete understanding of what you have to start with. JSeery and I know these T5s pretty well, and will help you.......if you explain ALL of the details slowly and systematically. DD

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 08:31 PM

what ever

JSeery · 03-19-2017, 08:59 PM

Well, it works with a Ford T5! MDL sells the kit MD 401-2113 So, would guess you need a 83-93 Ford V8 T-5 length input shaft.

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 09:11 PM

thanks I think some one cut the end of the shaft of the ford got the same as chevy for how long it is I'm going to go and check the transmission my self this week

if you look at the end of my shaft looks like it been cut off from a stock one

Ol' Ron · 03-19-2017, 09:15 PM

I think the stock throw bearing works OK, The photo above with the adapter bolted to it looks like the adapter I made for Richard. However he used agt late chevy box with the Ford bell housing. BTW converting the taleshaft to a different shifter Is VERY expensive.

1931flathead · 03-19-2017, 09:19 PM

ol' Ron
my adapter is on the first page it is made for a chevy did you use a s10 or a mustang tale shaft housing

Ol' Ron · 03-20-2017, 07:12 AM

I would never use an S-10 T-5, very poor choice for the long run. The trans we used was a 92 chevy unit, this has the Ford bolt pattern. Trans was installed in a 53 Hard top. Not sure about the shift lever, but when I drove it the lever was in a good place. I'm building a 27 'T track roadster with an 87 Mustamg trans using the same adapter, but the shift lever is too far back. However changing it will cost more than the trans did. Everything I do is based on the cost of doing it.

40 Deluxe · 03-20-2017, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 1931flathead

what ever

May I suggest that we not bite the hand that is trying to feed us?

JSeery · 03-20-2017, 08:21 AM

I'm a Ford T5 guy myself, for many reasons, but in this case he already has the transmission and the adapter that he is attempting to use. It is also the better of the S10 gear ratios. If all it needs is a new input shaft and possible tail shaft swap, it shouldn't be too big a deal. The forward shift pisition tail shaft is the one everyone is after, so should be able to pick up a rear position one for next to nothing and sell what he has for a good price.

03-19-2017, 01:04 PM	#21
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door I have look throw that couple times the bad part the stock input shaft is 6 7/8 and my s10 is 6 1/2 so my input shaft is to short with the adapter that is around 3/4 or so going have to try some thing else

03-19-2017, 01:05 PM	#22
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door if I can find a longer input shaft I be ok

03-19-2017, 02:00 PM	#24
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door S 10 are 9 and a quarter long

03-19-2017, 05:06 PM	#26
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I looked and still can't find a longer input I will have to go and put a tape to his transmission maybe ol' ron will chim in here

03-19-2017, 05:15 PM	#27
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,411	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door A thinner adapter plate should take up any input problems. There is bound to be someone on the web that has done this before. There are plenty of entries for T5s on the HAMB and on here plus all the other sites available. Your basically looking to use the same or similar clutch release set up that the 52 & 53 cars came with and I'm sure it's been done before. the Ford shoe boxes up through the 52 & 53 Mainline/Crestline all use a similar clutch release system. The 52 & 53 Mercs are in the same grouping too.

03-19-2017, 05:17 PM	#28
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door ron did one but he used a ford t5 maybe the input shat is longer

03-19-2017, 06:25 PM	#29
40cpe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Star, MS Posts: 4,120	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door I have a transmission number 1352-010 that has a 7 1/8" input shaft from the front of the transmission case. It came from an early S10 V6. You have to be careful reading the tape so far from the shaft.

03-19-2017, 07:12 PM	#31
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door pics are not the best the first one is from the front of the case with the nose cone gone and the number 2 is sitting down on something flat they are 6 1/2 and little over 8 1/2

03-19-2017, 08:23 PM	#32
V8COOPMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON Posts: 11,184	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door If you want any rational information and help sorting this out, you first need to send some carefully thought-out pictures. You also need to start explaining things in complete, comprehensive sentences. ACCURATE measurements are an absolute must. Right now, we ain't got a clue WHAT you have, nor what length input shaft you THINK you need. How many splines are on the T5 input shaft you have? How many teeth on it's gear? Also, you must keep in mind that you can't just change input shafts without considering the TOOTH COUNT. There are several different gear sets and gear counts available in the various T5s. Also, have you considered the diameter of the big hole in the center of your bellhousing? Does it's diameter match with your bearing retainer, and/or your plate adapter? Do you have bucket seats, or a bench seat? It makes a difference with the location of the shifter on the tailshaft housing. This alone may determine whether the S-10 trans is a wise choice for your application. TOO many guys go and buy an S-10 trans 'cuz they've "heard" that that's "THE" trans to put in a hot rod, not knowing WHY that may (or may NOT) be a wise choice, including gearset ratios. This can all be figured-out......IF you approach it slowly, and with complete understanding of what you have to start with. JSeery and I know these T5s pretty well, and will help you.......if you explain ALL of the details slowly and systematically. DD __________________ *Click Links Below* __ ▼ *'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN* *T5 W/TORQUE TUBE*

03-19-2017, 08:31 PM	#33
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door what ever

03-19-2017, 09:11 PM	#35
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door thanks I think some one cut the end of the shaft of the ford got the same as chevy for how long it is I'm going to go and check the transmission my self this week if you look at the end of my shaft looks like it been cut off from a stock one

03-19-2017, 09:15 PM	#36
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door I think the stock throw bearing works OK, The photo above with the adapter bolted to it looks like the adapter I made for Richard. However he used agt late chevy box with the Ford bell housing. BTW converting the taleshaft to a different shifter Is VERY expensive.

03-19-2017, 09:19 PM	#37
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door ol' Ron my adapter is on the first page it is made for a chevy did you use a s10 or a mustang tale shaft housing

03-20-2017, 07:12 AM	#38
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door I would never use an S-10 T-5, very poor choice for the long run. The trans we used was a 92 chevy unit, this has the Ford bolt pattern. Trans was installed in a 53 Hard top. Not sure about the shift lever, but when I drove it the lever was in a good place. I'm building a 27 'T track roadster with an 87 Mustamg trans using the same adapter, but the shift lever is too far back. However changing it will cost more than the trans did. Everything I do is based on the cost of doing it.

03-20-2017, 08:21 AM	#40
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: t5 transmission in my 1953 ford 2 door I'm a Ford T5 guy myself, for many reasons, but in this case he already has the transmission and the adapter that he is attempting to use. It is also the better of the S10 gear ratios. If all it needs is a new input shaft and possible tail shaft swap, it shouldn't be too big a deal. The forward shift pisition tail shaft is the one everyone is after, so should be able to pick up a rear position one for next to nothing and sell what he has for a good price.