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RonC · 04-25-2013, 12:53 PM

The engine looks like it has high mileage. If you don't want to spend the money on a rebuild you could replace it with a good running used engine. Maybe you could buy a good running chassis and swap out the engines??

Kohnke Rebabbitting · 04-25-2013, 01:01 PM

As Ford 3 said pull the engine. Your 4 & 3 are pumping oil, and 3 is the worst.

I think the cylinders will have to be bored, as fitting a round ring to a egg shaped hole is not possible.

Put in modern S.Steel Valves, with over size stems, Glue in the old lifters, and bore for the New S.S. valves.

Check the whole engine, and then all you have to do is drive it the rest of your life.

Tom Wesenberg · 04-25-2013, 04:35 PM

Your engine sounds just like my teporary well used engine. I have 50 lbs. on each cylinder, good power, but a ticking near number 3 cylinder. I think it's piston slap, but I'm just going to keep driving it until it really needs to be worked on.

I wouldn't install valve seats, unless it really needed them. I would measure the cylinders for wear, to check for taper and egg shaped. Let those measurements determine how much work needs to be done.

700rpm · 04-25-2013, 04:45 PM

So far all your comments have convinced me to pull the engine and make some serious inspections and measurements. So that's my next step. If anyone has some more observations, I'm still open. But having the engine out will help me with the inspection process. When I get the engine out and apart I think I'll start another thread since this one has strayed from my original issue of valve seats.

Patrick L. · 04-25-2013, 06:37 PM

700, were you having any issues with the engine except for a bit of valve lash noise ? You said you had good compression. Was it using much oil ? If it was running good and not using much oil, why mess too much with it ? Thats just my opinion though. I don't see a problem with just fixing the valve lash problem and run it for years. But, if the engine comes out, then I'd it have completely re-done, its only time and money.

700rpm · 04-26-2013, 01:11 AM

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Patrick, the annoying issue was a ticking noise, as explained above. There was a pretty good oil leak from the rear main, about a 3-4" puddle after a long drive. Short drives sometimes didn't produce any leak at all, or very slight. It didn't seem to burn much oil. because of the leak and the ticking, I had planned to take the engine out this spring or summer and have a good look at it, since I don't have any history on it. The degree to which I will rebuild it will really depend now on what I find once I pull it.

Thanks for your help and your interest. All the comments have been informative and helpful in pushing me along.

Patrick L. · 04-26-2013, 06:50 AM

OK, I understand. Once its done correctly, there should be no more worries.

Special Coupe Frank · 04-26-2013, 07:23 AM

"The degree to which I will rebuild it will really depend now on what I find once I pull it."

Sounds like a reasonable approach !

04-25-2013, 12:53 PM	#21
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions The engine looks like it has high mileage. If you don't want to spend the money on a rebuild you could replace it with a good running used engine. Maybe you could buy a good running chassis and swap out the engines??

04-25-2013, 01:01 PM	#22
Kohnke Rebabbitting Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: 60615,330th Ave.,Clare, Iowa, 50524 Posts: 1,457	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions As Ford 3 said pull the engine. Your 4 & 3 are pumping oil, and 3 is the worst. I think the cylinders will have to be bored, as fitting a round ring to a egg shaped hole is not possible. Put in modern S.Steel Valves, with over size stems, Glue in the old lifters, and bore for the New S.S. valves. Check the whole engine, and then all you have to do is drive it the rest of your life.

04-25-2013, 04:35 PM	#23
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions Your engine sounds just like my teporary well used engine. I have 50 lbs. on each cylinder, good power, but a ticking near number 3 cylinder. I think it's piston slap, but I'm just going to keep driving it until it really needs to be worked on. I wouldn't install valve seats, unless it really needed them. I would measure the cylinders for wear, to check for taper and egg shaped. Let those measurements determine how much work needs to be done.

04-25-2013, 04:45 PM	#24
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions So far all your comments have convinced me to pull the engine and make some serious inspections and measurements. So that's my next step. If anyone has some more observations, I'm still open. But having the engine out will help me with the inspection process. When I get the engine out and apart I think I'll start another thread since this one has strayed from my original issue of valve seats. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

04-25-2013, 06:37 PM	#25
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions 700, were you having any issues with the engine except for a bit of valve lash noise ? You said you had good compression. Was it using much oil ? If it was running good and not using much oil, why mess too much with it ? Thats just my opinion though. I don't see a problem with just fixing the valve lash problem and run it for years. But, if the engine comes out, then I'd it have completely re-done, its only time and money.

04-26-2013, 01:11 AM	#26
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Patrick, the annoying issue was a ticking noise, as explained above. There was a pretty good oil leak from the rear main, about a 3-4" puddle after a long drive. Short drives sometimes didn't produce any leak at all, or very slight. It didn't seem to burn much oil. because of the leak and the ticking, I had planned to take the engine out this spring or summer and have a good look at it, since I don't have any history on it. The degree to which I will rebuild it will really depend now on what I find once I pull it. Thanks for your help and your interest. All the comments have been informative and helpful in pushing me along. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

04-26-2013, 06:50 AM	#27
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions OK, I understand. Once its done correctly, there should be no more worries.

04-26-2013, 07:23 AM	#28
Special Coupe Frank Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Penna Posts: 2,108	Re: Pix added: Best way to clean up valve seats & a couple other questions "The degree to which I will rebuild it will really depend now on what I find once I pull it." Sounds like a reasonable approach !