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The F-1 has some good things, smaller, production 48-52, 32 steerarm can be used and same bolt pattern.
I guess performance is the same also as the F-100. Feel like a uppgrade in a hotrod for early 50s than use the std box. So now comes steering wheel angle in a lower position. How do people do, so they normally like that and use the std lenghts up to steering wheel ( or short it ) That means I need to put a adapter under my collum ( as angle is lower ) or it might be all Ok as if I use the Hollywood panel the dash needs to be wider. What is the gap ca under dash ( std ) if use std collum and the F-1 box. |
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How much move the steering shaft down in a F-1 from the F-100 ( or std 32 box )
Look like 3” (?) I measured my 32 dash and its 5.3/4 and the Hollywood panel is 5.3/4 so its 2”. So dash with that set-up means a ca 2” wider dash. Here is a example in a roadster in Sweden. Do not know steering box in that car, look like a 34 collum (?) Last edited by 3W Hank; 05-11-2024 at 07:51 AM. |
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The size of the spacer needed to mount the F1 box in a stock 32 is exactly 1'' square.
I use a piece of 1-inch square aluminum about 6 inches long. I drill 2 oversize holes to match the column drop holes. Then two 1.5 inch 5/16 24 Allen cap screws through the original dash mounting holes, through the aluminum into the column drop. The Allens make it easy to install and tighten. I taper the ends of the spacer to blend it to the bottom of the dash. I put a high polish on the spacer itself, I don't like the look painted. The last three were machined turned to match the original gauge panel. I like that look too.
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Found this Hudson 39.
Maybe a bolt on in a 32 ? Is the 39 bigger than the ex 37 box ? What design do Neal use ? One guy build many hotrods in Sweden told me use the F100 as Way better angle on steering wheel, he was not found on the F1. In a chopped coupe one sit low so better with a flatter angle, he mean, and then move it forward for better clearance on exhaust header. Last edited by 3W Hank; 05-13-2024 at 09:39 AM. |
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On the headers, once set it up its better get more clearance even if header will be custom made.
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Wise words from Tim! Use a modified F1 or one of Neal's new boxes. Space is tight so avoid the F100. Glenn
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I saw this picture and it was from Neal and said in thread 37 ’only’ but not why, maybe 39 is bigger, or ?
I really not into the F-100 so the F-1 feels good and I will find clearance, but now this Hudson came out so went to see it. Expensive but wanted to trade. |
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I read several ( good info.
If ex Neal read this, or other knowledge person ; is the 39 wrong turning ? This box if one turns right sector goes anti clickwise = correct Ford style. -So I think seller told me wrong, its a 37 box, here is steering wheel. |
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For a Left Hand Drive, LHD; turning the steering wheel CW rotates the Pitman arm CCW which pulls the drag link forward, turning the wheels to the right.
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Hank, original '37 Hudson steering boxes have the figures "A 04
30585" cast into the housing. That may help you confirm whether the box you have is a '37 or not. Tom |
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Tom, good info thanks.
Get back tomorrow as I ask seller to check. One thing confuse me as at Hamb I saw a picture of a 37 but it look indentical to this as was told be a 39. But with the number it will tell. I guess the 37 is smaller. |
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I notice the box I sas yesterday is a 39 and one see they had a extra cast rib to sector axle.
Why, the 39 had a extra 2 longer sector than the 37. -As Neal has said, 37 only so now i know why plus the 39 is bigger. But i think I found a 37 box ( 800 USD ) but its in a bad shape. But good on Hudson is a tyny box and roller, steering wheel shaft comes in from above and as Neal showed in his pick-up ( big wheel ) the angle is to step use a F1 ( but I has a 15.5 Bell ) and my window is not tilted but I will sit low ( 3 chop 5W ) So the Hudson 37 might be the way to go but ( $ ) Se pictire of a 37 Hudson in Sweden ( = no extra rib to sector ) |
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F1 and Hudson 37 on steering wheel angle.
One get the same results on std 32 or the F-100 box as the Hudson ( 37-39 ) Pictures from Neals pick-up. |
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I tested my F-100 δn turn steering wheel to right ( CW ) but the sector axle must go anti CW as arm go back and ’drag’ the spindle = so car goes right ( just a note )
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I found this from Neal 2011/Hamb.
He show a std 32 box and a 37 Hudson to right. Last edited by 3W Hank; 05-14-2024 at 08:44 AM. |
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