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mrtexas · 01-02-2017, 11:34 PM

What are the two unused holes for with the green paint around them?

Flathead · 01-02-2017, 11:37 PM

Motor mounts for early 30's chassis, and possibly some other stuff.

G.M. · 01-03-2017, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mrtexas

What are the two unused holes for with the green paint around them?

Just for those who don't know the little hole on the right about 2:30
is the oil hole from the timing gears that lubricates the bushing type
pumps. When installing clean both mounting surfaces good and put a
thin film of grease on both sides of the gaskets. This seals good and
allows the gasket to be reused if removal is required. DO NOT USE
thick gasket cement or silicon as it can fill the oil hole allowing no
oil to flow to the pump. This oil is not pressurized, it is only gravity
feed. When replacing pump blow compressed air through the hole
into the engine to assure it is open. In the bearing pumps the shaft
NEVER touches the bushing it runs on a thin film of oil, lubricated the
shaft or bushing never wear out. It is VERY important to ream the
bushings with a SHARP reamer maintaining about .005/.007 clearance.
Don't over tighten the belt always have about 5/8" of play on the long
area of the belt. G.M.

V8COOPMAN · 01-03-2017, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mrtexas

What are the two unused holes for with the green paint around them?

Thoseholes allow the '32 motor mounts to be bolted-on, as in the pic. This allows later blocks to be used as replacements in '32 Fords. These holes continued thru the end of flathead production. DD

The pic below of the later 8BA-type engines being moved along a line at the factory also indicates another reason for those four holes being incorporated thru the entire flathead production run. DD

19Fordy · 01-03-2017, 01:20 PM

V8: I am amazed.
How did you stuff so much knowledge into your head, including obscure info.
that just is not "out there".
Anyhow, I am glad you did as it's "just neat to know."

tubman · 01-03-2017, 01:43 PM

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I have heard that they were also used again as the front mounts on a one year only basis for '53 pickups. Any truth to this?

V8COOPMAN · 01-03-2017, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

V8: I am amazed.
How did you stuff so much knowledge into your head, including obscure info.

Hey Jim.......Just like the snakes in the "swamp", I guess I'm good-enough at makin'-up BS that many un-informed folks just believe it all. DTS

estout81 · 01-03-2017, 05:32 PM

So they could be mounted in the '55-'57 Chevys!

V8COOPMAN · 01-03-2017, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by estout81

So they could be mounted in the '55-'57 Chevys!

I've also heard that story, except the other way around.......so that the little 265s would easily bolt into the '32 Fords. It's been said that Ed Cole actually had that in mind. DD

V8COOPMAN · 01-03-2017, 07:07 PM

mrtexas......DO NOT ANSWER!

EVERYONE ELSE......Does anyone ELSE know what the round, green thing is between the block and the rubber motor mount pad? Just some more obscure trivia. DD

TJ · 01-03-2017, 07:10 PM

Yep, those '32 mounts also bolt to the front of the early small block Chevys.

Graeme / New Zealand · 01-04-2017, 02:44 AM

Chatter rod mounting?

GB

19Fordy · 01-04-2017, 11:50 AM

Yup.
It's where the front of the 1941 Ford anti chatter rod bolts.
One on each side.
Do Graeme and I get a prize?

Graeme / New Zealand · 01-04-2017, 12:46 PM

NZ assembled 46-48 also employed the chatter rods.... mines got them. I don't believe they did in the US for those years. I'd be interested if Canadian 46/48 used them as our cars came from the Ford Commonwealth plant in Canada.

GB

V8COOPMAN · 01-04-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Yup.
It's where the front of the 1941 Ford anti chatter rod bolts.
One on each side.
Do Graeme and I get a prize?

Jim......You and Graeme are way too smart to fool on this old Ford stuff. Both of ya...WINNER, WINNER, CHICKEN DINNER! Mention "COOPMAN" at any Popeys Chicken and they'll feed ya both.....promise

! Below is one more pic better-showing how these rods hook-up. DD

Graeme / New Zealand · 01-04-2017, 03:47 PM

Coopman the bolts used to hook these up at the front are they a special specific bolt for the purpose? My car was bought as a project and I found a wierd bolt with a sort of conical step under the head, that seemed to fit and I used that. I only had one so for the other I adapted a standard type one with the same thread.

GB

V8COOPMAN · 01-04-2017, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme / New Zealand

Coopman the bolts used to hook these up at the front are they a special specific bolt for the purpose? My car was bought as a project and I found a wierd bolt with a sort of conical step under the head, that seemed to fit and I used that. I only had one so for the other I adapted a standard type one with the same thread.

GB

I ain't got a clue, Graeme. I guess I DON'T know the important stuff. DD

mrtexas · 01-04-2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme / New Zealand

Coopman the bolts used to hook these up at the front are they a special specific bolt for the purpose? My car was bought as a project and I found a wierd bolt with a sort of conical step under the head, that seemed to fit and I used that. I only had one so for the other I adapted a standard type one with the same thread.

GB

Yes they are as you describe.

Graeme / New Zealand · 01-05-2017, 01:04 PM

Mr Texas. Thanks for that.

GB

Darrell S · 01-05-2017, 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=Graeme / New Zealand;1409038]NZ assembled 46-48 also employed the chatter rods.... mines got them. I don't believe they did in the US for those years. I'd be interested if Canadian 46/48 used them as our cars came from the Ford Commonwealth plant in Canada.

My Canadian 48 doesn't have them.

01-02-2017, 11:34 PM	#1
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,397	Took off water pump on the 41 What are the two unused holes for with the green paint around them? __________________ 41 woodie https://41fordwoodie.weebly.com/

01-02-2017, 11:37 PM	#2
Flathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 1,512	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 Motor mounts for early 30's chassis, and possibly some other stuff.

01-03-2017, 01:20 PM	#5
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,046	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 V8: I am amazed. How did you stuff so much knowledge into your head, including obscure info. that just is not "out there". Anyhow, I am glad you did as it's "just neat to know."

01-03-2017, 01:43 PM	#6
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,448	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have heard that they were also used again as the front mounts on a one year only basis for '53 pickups. Any truth to this?

01-03-2017, 05:32 PM	#8
estout81 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Utica, Ohio Posts: 522	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 So they could be mounted in the '55-'57 Chevys!

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V8COOPMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON Posts: 11,135	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 *mrtexas......DO NOT ANSWER! EVERYONE ELSE......Does anyone ELSE know what the round, green thing is between the block and the rubber motor mount pad? Just some more obscure trivia. DD __________________ Click Links Below* __ ▼ *'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN* *T5 W/TORQUE TUBE*

01-03-2017, 07:10 PM	#11
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,097	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 Yep, those '32 mounts also bolt to the front of the early small block Chevys.

01-04-2017, 02:44 AM	#12
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,127	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 Chatter rod mounting? GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

01-04-2017, 12:46 PM	#14
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,127	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 NZ assembled 46-48 also employed the chatter rods.... mines got them. I don't believe they did in the US for those years. I'd be interested if Canadian 46/48 used them as our cars came from the Ford Commonwealth plant in Canada. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

01-04-2017, 03:47 PM	#16
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,127	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 Coopman the bolts used to hook these up at the front are they a special specific bolt for the purpose? My car was bought as a project and I found a wierd bolt with a sort of conical step under the head, that seemed to fit and I used that. I only had one so for the other I adapted a standard type one with the same thread. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

01-05-2017, 01:04 PM	#19
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,127	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 Mr Texas. Thanks for that. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

01-05-2017, 01:17 PM	#20
Darrell S Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Everett WA Posts: 346	Re: Took off water pump on the 41 [QUOTE=Graeme / New Zealand;1409038]NZ assembled 46-48 also employed the chatter rods.... mines got them. I don't believe they did in the US for those years. I'd be interested if Canadian 46/48 used them as our cars came from the Ford Commonwealth plant in Canada. My Canadian 48 doesn't have them.