32 rearends

[3W Hank]

I decided to switch my plans ( from a 37/40 rearend ) on my 32 5W coupe.
My first idea and plan was a 35/36 rearend with 35/36 bones and a A-Ford cross and QC.
So I bought a QC and bones and a cross and a banjo/ends I could bought.
I chanced plans so I bought a 37/40 banjo/ends and idea was to use cutted off ends of the 35/36 bones, but few of my buddies did like that idea ( cut off the nice part.. ) even if I saw it was not uncommon to do that, but I sold the bones and got a set 37/40 bones instead and the idea was set them inside frame on the axle ( aka Rolling Bones )
But I has never really like the bulky ‘nose’ hanger hold the spring on the 37/40 axles.

-One told me, why don’t you get a 32 rearend of your car, that fit way better the style ( end of 40’s, race )
Ok, I find a Texas ( absolutely no rust ) 34 complete axle with 4.11 in a good working condition.
I came with bones and a driveshaft, but the brakes was off ( no need as I will use Lincolns )
The rear spring was in a great conditions and the mount had a Ford logo on it, se picture.
But blades was straight, not edges as I seen on all 32/34 springs.
Is this a Ford spring ?

Then another question.
This axle has straight bones and the mounts on axle are wedged.
That’s 33/34 std.
But did the 32, had those wedged mounts or was them straight or first straight then the later in 32 had them wedged as the 33/34 ?

Ok, so the road was curved… but I feel I’m pleased… go this way on the rear !

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

I decided to switch my plans ( from a 37/40 rearend ) on my 32 5W coupe.
My first idea and plan was a 35/36 rearend with 35/36 bones and a A-Ford cross and QC.
So I bought a QC and bones and a cross and a banjo/ends I could bought.
I chanced plans so I bought a 37/40 banjo/ends and idea was to use cutted off ends of the 35/36 bones, but few of my buddies did like that idea ( cut off the nice part.. ) even if I saw it was not uncommon to do that, but I sold the bones and got a set 37/40 bones instead and the idea was set them inside frame on the axle ( aka Rolling Bones )
But I has never really like the bulky ‘nose’ hanger hold the spring on the 37/40 axles.

-One told me, why don’t you get a 32 rearend of your car, that fit way better the style ( end of 40’s, race )
Ok, I find a Texas ( absolutely no rust ) 34 complete axle with 4.11 in a good working condition.
I came with bones and a driveshaft, but the brakes was off ( no need as I will use Lincolns )
The rear spring was in a great conditions and the mount had a Ford logo on it, se picture.
But blades was straight, not edges as I seen on all 32/34 springs.
Is this a Ford spring ?

Then another question.
This axle has straight bones and the mounts on axle are wedged.
That’s 33/34 std.
But did the 32, had those wedged mounts or was them straight or first straight then the later in 32 had them wedged as the 33/34 ?

Ok, so the road was curved… but I feel I’m pleased… go this way on the rear !

[DavidG]

All but early '34s had square spring leaf ends.


Wedged? (In your last question.)

[alchemy]

If the rear ends of the wishbones are straight it’s a later 32-34 axle, commonly known as a V8 axle. If the rear end of the wishbone has a bend where it attaches, it’s an earlier B axle.

Did you think your regular quickchange would bolt into this rearend?

[3W Hank]

I dont know if this spring is std to this axle, so is it a ’square’ if so is it a 32,33, 34 or a older repro ?

The ’wedge’, I’mean did a 32 axle has the end of the bone angle or straight.
My has the straight bone ( 34 my as driveshsft is 34 )
I guess all 32 has a angle bone but maybe the absolute late 32 had a straight bone.
My buddy has a std 32, angle bone.

[3W Hank]

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No I sold my QC 201.

A question.
Where is the best place to bolt on a shock on this 34 axle ?
Pictures of nice installations would be great.

[NealinCA]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

No I sold my QC 201.

A question.
Where is the best place to bolt on a shock on this 34 axle ?
Pictures of nice installations would be great.

Millworks sells these



https://www.millworkshotrod.com/prod...1932-1934-ford

[Flathead Fever]

Years ago, it took me quite a while to find a "late" '32 Ford driveshaft and torque tube to convert a '33-'34 rearend for a '32 project. I had no problem finding '33-'34 rearends and early '32s but late '32s were really tuff to find and that was over 25 years ago.

I was friends with a lot of the early dry lake's racers. Most of them said they used '40 rearends in there '32s in the 1940s, they already came with the hydraulic brakes installed which probably wasn't that easy of a rearend to get a hold of pre-war. Some guys really like the look (width) of a '35-'36 rearend in a '32. I like the late model '32, no modifications, no shorting driveshafts and torque tubes, that left me a choice of an early '32, late '32 or a '33-'34 with a stock late model '32 driveshaft and torque tube bolted to it, which is what I ended up with.

I've had my dads' '32 hot rod here since he died and I have never even been under the car, don't know what year rearend it has??? It's just out in the garage covered in dust waiting for me to get excited about working on it. It was a running car 20-years ago. I'm still waiting on getting excited. I was mechanic thinking I worked on all these cars I collected when I retired. I think being a mechanic ruined car building for me. The garage reminds me to much of like having to go to work. I kind of admire the guys with "one" project and there just learning about it. You have something I lost, AMBITION.

I have a real '66 GT-350, '70 Boss 302 factory Detroit test car. chopped '32 3-window. '32 5-wimdow. '29 Boss 302 powered SCTA roadster, still holds the Muroc record since they air force made them quit racing at Edwards, '34 pickup, backet case '33 pickup, stock '29 roadster, 1915 Mach truck, 1921 Mack truck. Two '64 Falcon factory 4-speeds, Mitchell Muffler '29 pickup that won the Pasadena reliability run and was in a lot of magazines in the early 50s. My '32 roadster project, original chassis but the body is a Brookville. My dad's real '32 roadster There could be more out in the garage, I forget about some of them until I see them. I'm good at answering some of you questions but I'm lousy at working on my own stuff. I'm burned out on this stuff.

[3W Hank]

Flathead Fever, wow, you has cool cars !
Thanks on the kind words and in my road in hotrods I’ll just love history/information.
I do change roads here and now, but thats part of the progress.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

No I sold my QC 201.

A question.
Where is the best place to bolt on a shock on this 34 axle ?
Pictures of nice installations would be great.

I don't think any of the Ford rear shock mounts don't fall into your strict early '40's time line. I believe all of the Ford tube shock mounts were post-War, but I could be wrong.

There are couple of different versions that Ford used if you aren't concerned about the timeline and they all work great.

Otherwise, guys have used the front end portion of the rear wishbones. The part that bolts together under the torque tube.

It's the end with the single bolt hole. They've cut them and welded them to bottom of the axle bell.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

I dont know if this spring is std to this axle, so is it a ’square’ if so is it a 32,33, 34 or a older repro ?

The ’wedge’, I’mean did a 32 axle has the end of the bone angle or straight.
My has the straight bone ( 34 my as driveshsft is 34 )
I guess all 32 has a angle bone but maybe the absolute late 32 had a straight bone.
My buddy has a std 32, angle bone.

[3W Hank]

Tim, Yes I build a time machine but not early 40’s.
It’s late 40’s or parts to 1950 is the idea but on design on mechanical solutions I’m not that strick on what was done, I’m open into what ’could been ’done’.
On shocks its no question shocks was used at that era as they where on factory made cars.
As NealinCa showed that design was simple to be made and not a bad idea.

McGee used shocks and his roadster was build 48.
I might can look how he did the rear but I has not find anything.

-Has you any pictures of that you described.

[Tim Ayers]

This is what I used. I believe these are '48 Ford mounts. Stock one side is longer than the other, so you need to shorten the one side to match.

Someone is making these aftermarket.

Here is a picture of what they look like stock before shortening the longer one. Try to get the extra long correct bolts for them as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22645572236...Bk9SR6zMzq3nZQ

[Terry,OH]

I see the Early Ford V8 Shop has a rebuilt 32 rear end for sale in West Covina. I believe 3:78 gears.

[BlueNotes]

The McGee roadster has Houdaille shocks mounted on the crossmember. Small attachment brackets for the dog bones are welded on the early 32 banjo axle tubes.

[3W Hank]

Ah, great, that was not expected as he had shocks in front.
I really like the old look with a low skirt in the end of the shocks.
How does this Houdaille's works, or is it best to install shocks.

Tim.
Thats a nice mount.
Is it front or rea of a 48 ?

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Ah, great, that was not expected as he had shocks in front.
I really like the old look with a low skirt in the end of the shocks.
How does this Houdaille's works, or is it best to install shocks.

Tim.
Thats a nice mount.
Is it front or rea of a 48 ?

Rears from '48

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

This is what I used. I believe these are '48 Ford mounts. Stock one side is longer than the other, so you need to shorten the one side to match.

Someone is making these aftermarket.

Here is a picture of what they look like stock before shortening the longer one. Try to get the extra long correct bolts for them as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22645572236...Bk9SR6zMzq3nZQ

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by BlueNotes

The McGee roadster has Houdaille shocks mounted on the crossmember. Small attachment brackets for the dog bones are welded on the early 32 banjo axle tubes.

[NealinCA]

The 48 Ford rear shock mounts would need to be modified to work on a 32-34 rear end, as the axle flanges are rotated slightly compared to a 35-48 axle bell.

As far as lever shocks, I have run original Ford shocks and not been real happy, but I tried the new replacements from Rotoshim on my 32 5w. I put them on all four corners and am very happy with the ride quality.

Check them out here:

https://rotoshim.com/overview