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Old 04-06-2025, 09:30 PM   #1
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I'm happy with this. Everything is stock 52 F3 up to the block. The rest is 72 F250. Done!
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Old 04-06-2025, 10:37 PM   #2
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I'm happy with this. Everything is stock 52 F3 up to the block. The rest is 72 F250. Done!
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Wow! Lots of great info and I'll give it a go. Is the end of our 1/4" hose a tapered pipe thread into the block? IIRC the '71 block is factory swedged to the brass block. So I cut it flush, bore and tap? I see no problem with a vent hose under the bed, so I'll save a step, and Pete, I still think your enlargements are either more clear or larger than clicking onto the FTE small photo.
I have the housing in primer now. Stripping brakes next, but those darn contractors are in a dither now with summerfolk soon to be coming in droves. This coming week is shot, but my best vehicle repair bay is taken up anyhow with an ongoing restoration of a maritime artifact for a client.
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Scotty has good info, better than hose clamps where you may have to rebuild the chicken coop again
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Scotty has good info, better than hose clamps where you may have to rebuild the chicken coop again
Ya just won't let that one go

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Gary, I think that was my original 52 F3 block and I just screwed a new hose in it. It was already tapped.

Edit; I went back and found pics of that block on my original Timken axle. It had a bolt through the hole I drilled out for the vent fitting.

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Old 04-15-2025, 04:48 PM   #7
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After 3 days of running around and trying to reason with fedex chatbots about how 517 Picketts lane is on an island etc...I came across a fedex stepvan pulling out of a gravel driveway and cut them off. The driver and I exchanged some info and I told her it arrived just across the sound on Friday... Then I described a plywood crate yay by yay 98 lbs. And she said 'wait a minute' and there it was ! She folloed me up the half mile of steepness and she grabbed the hand holds and carried it over and set it on the slab. I was on my way home with brak-kleen and other stuff to redo the backing plates, YAY! Got me a punkin', Thanks Lanny
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After 3 days of running around and trying to reason with fedex chatbots about how 517 Picketts lane is on an island etc...I came across a fedex stepvan pulling out of a gravel driveway and cut them off. The driver and I exchanged some info and I told her it arrived just across the sound on Friday... Then I described a plywood crate yay by yay 98 lbs. And she said 'wait a minute' and there it was ! She folloed me up the half mile of steepness and she grabbed the hand holds and carried it over and set it on the slab. I was on my way home with brak-kleen and other stuff to redo the backing plates, YAY! Got me a punkin', Thanks Lanny
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Old 04-17-2025, 11:38 PM   #9
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I don't know anything about quick change rear axles, so I will just plug along as planned. Been waiting on some parts and distracted by work and a few other things, but yesterday I opend the crate. I love the look of long stored parts that have been stored properly. I think Lanny had this built in the 80's so I'm gonna wager the bearings were not produced 'overseas'. Nice job of bolting this thing in Lanny! and thanks again for making the effort to get this half way across the country.
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I don't know anything about quick change rear axles, so I will just plug along as planned. Been waiting on some parts and distracted by work and a few other things, but yesterday I opend the crate. I love the look of long stored parts that have been stored properly. I think Lanny had this built in the 80's so I'm gonna wager the bearings were not produced 'overseas'. Nice job of bolting this thing in Lanny! and thanks again for making the effort to get this half way across the country.


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Looks like your box made it through with flying colors!
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Hi Gary, Ya, I kept track of all the stops Fed-Ex made
taking the box across the country for delivery to you.
By the way, that was a super nice strong box you made.

Anyway, when Fed-Ex got to the west end of
Washington state and ran into the Pacific Ocean.
The tracking got a little wanky then.

They must of finally figured out that your address
of Orcas Island was a real Island and their little truck
had to take a ferry boat ride to find you..

Glad it made it to you safe and sound. Now Have Fun.

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I am finally making progress on this '71 F100 rear axle swap. I had a lot of work commitments and various mechanical situations with our regular driver vehicles. I suppose we should own something built in this century at some point...Have been mostly cleaning parts and painting. If my dad were still alive, I could hear him saying " What the heck you building Gary? Thing's gonna look like a goldang Circus Wagon!". I do like cleaning old steel parts with the wire wheel, priming and painting. Today I used up six partial spray cans, and my dad woulda been right, as I never seem to 'play like the other kids'. Black on black just ain't much fun. Lastly, that is ONE heavy third member Lanny sent me. Truth be told, I just thought the whole assembly would have been smaller. I do thing somebody here told me the 9" would be overkill. But Hey, it IS still a truck after all, and it's gonna still look exactly the same unless one were to crawl underneath it. But I'll know what's down there when I'm heading out on an adventure.
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I am finally making progress on this '71 F100 rear axle swap. I had a lot of work commitments and various mechanical situations with our regular driver vehicles. I suppose we should own something built in this century at some point...Have been mostly cleaning parts and painting. If my dad were still alive, I could hear him saying " What the heck you building Gary? Thing's gonna look like a goldang Circus Wagon!". I do like cleaning old steel parts with the wire wheel, priming and painting. Today I used up six partial spray cans, and my dad woulda been right, as I never seem to 'play like the other kids'. Black on black just ain't much fun. Lastly, that is ONE heavy third member Lanny sent me. Truth be told, I just thought the whole assembly would have been smaller. I do thing somebody here told me the 9" would be overkill. But Hey, it IS still a truck after all, and it's gonna still look exactly the same unless one were to crawl underneath it. But I'll know what's down there when I'm heading out on an adventure.




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Thank you Pete and Skip. Pete, your new avatar is such a great word picture, if that's the right term. It brought an instant smile to my face and made me think of this George Strait song.
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Sure, it's kinda sappy. So sue me....
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Pete, your new avatar is such a great word picture, if that's the right term. It brought an instant smile to my face and made me think of this George Strait song.
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Sure, it's kinda sappy. So sue me....

"Dad, the fish are biting"...

Reminds me of my son on a duck hunting morning...

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Thank you Pete and Skip. Pete, your new avatar is such a great word picture, if that's the right term. It brought an instant smile to my face and made me think of this George Strait song.........
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Indeed a classic image from amongst the hundreds that graced the front pages of the Saturday Evening Post over the years.

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WoW Gary looks like your doin a 100 point restoration ! But...the super fine woody deserves it. I'm the snoopy guy that looks at the background, and your shop looks great.
new lathe, and the macho grinder I am jelouse of, carry on my friend!
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Old 05-25-2025, 11:33 PM   #19
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I believe it all relies on the round head of the spring bolt to locate and secure any movement. So, U bolts will still do the job just fine.
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I would try using the two different brake line sizes initially and see how that works out - might have to install a common adjustable proportioning valve eventually.

Does this resemble your current spring setup?

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