11-28-2014, 09:11 PM | #41 |
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Re: 1933 can't start after recent restart
You would need 6 volts going to the starter switch, and continuity for the ammeter lead, generator cutout, and ignition switch, to start the engine and charge the battery. The ammeter, generator cutout, and ignition switch leads should all be connected, (common), at one end of the fuse block. That will be the "hot" side.
Forget the blowing fuse for now. That only controls the lighting system as previously mentioned. Just get the engine running, then plan on a complete wire harness replacement. It will eliminate future headaches. With wiring that old, it just isn't worth the time to try to splice and repair all of the worn and broken conductors. Does that help? |
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I have a cheap volt meter I mainly us it for contuinity check but have also measured the voltage at 6.2 volts from my battery so I can use that. a test light may be better because otherwise I have to hold the flashlight in my teeth. continuity i understand open give infinite resistance. Taking the measure readings gets confusing as to where I place the probes. I guess from - wire to positive or the frame. |
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11-28-2014, 09:26 PM | #43 |
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To test the continuity of a conductor, you are just making sure that the conductor, (wire), has a continuous path from end to end. Just place one probe of the ohms meter to one end of the conductor, and the other probe to the opposite end of the conductor. Look at the ohms meter to determine if you have a short. Which you should. It's best to have alligator clips on the meter probe tips for this.
If you do not see a short when doing this, you have an open condition in that conductor. (Broken wire) |
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11-28-2014, 09:45 PM | #45 |
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When you replace the wiring don't try and do it yourself using bulk wire from the local auto parts store. Buy a harness from one of the suppliers, it will be cheaper and better in the long run. See the archives for who is best and/or post the question.
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11-29-2014, 12:55 AM | #46 |
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Tell us where you are? What city? We can help in person, but it's so hard by this long distance method!
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If it is wired right, there is a problem in the lighting circuits causing the fuse to blow, and you are right, the fuse blowing would not stop the ignition from working.
Coincidentally, Frank, your coil is visible in the top of that pic. You were asking about that before. It may be worth looking at both the HT and low tension wires to and from that coil. (I wrote this as a reply to the last post on page 2, missed the posts above.) Frank, it's worth getting a "headlight" type flashlight that sits on a strap round your forehead. Very helpful when working in these out of the way areas. Mart. Last edited by Mart; 11-29-2014 at 05:21 AM. |
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I had a similar experence with a 32 ""B"" Wagon after a tour of over 1000 miles. The owner wanted the car moved to a different location before snow came. Started on a cold N.E morning som was letting it warm before moving it. As we wee taalging it just quit ! It turned out to be the condenser. justmy experience. Kerk
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But had to replace it anyway. Replaced the coil and condenser too. |
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I love this car! It is 99%original and I want to keep it that way. produced in July of 1933 it has special significance for me. Thanks for all your help. I will call in the experts if everything I try does not work. I actually have a spare rebuild model B motor and trans too. I bought them because I plan to drive this car until I die. |
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12-01-2014, 10:51 AM | #51 | |
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with ignition switch on Have 6 volts at switch 6 volts at each coil terminal of brand new ignition coil 6 volts at generator cutoff Test spark with spark/ coil polarity tester....NOthing lit up. NO spark through Band new HT wire!!!!! Looks like nothing is going thru my HT wire???? Could this new coil be bad????? |
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I'd be looking at the points.
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If your points are about .014-,015 both, remove to condense wire and use the ohms scale. turn over engine and should see make and brake.
With the point wire off coil place meter there on volts. other end on battery neg. should read about 5 volts if under dash resister is hooked up. Also check the end of wire connector at coil make sure it not held on by few strands on wire. |
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So I guess the problem is with the distributor?? |
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12-01-2014, 04:03 PM | #57 |
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If I slowly hand crank the engine to see how close the points gets at the closest point and what should that distance be? 0.15 inch
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12-01-2014, 04:07 PM | #58 |
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The points should close. If they never close, the car will never run. They should open approx. .015 every time a cylinder fires, and then close again. DD
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I don't know why you put the meter in the high tension hole better stick our finger in there. LOL
Try this test. Once you see spark then get the point working. At the high point of lobe that's were the air gap is .015 get a feeler gauge. Here is a simple way to check coil and condener. Put power to coil make sure there are no broken strands end of wire. Remove points wire at coil Now put a condenser on coil lug terminal wire end. Take coil wire out of cap and hold 1/4 to grd. leave other end in coil. Get a piece of wire grd one end and touch conderser. When you make contact and remove should see spark. Turn key on. |
12-01-2014, 06:51 PM | #60 |
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(1) with key on.
(2)HT wire removed from dizzy, held 1/4 to ground . (3) turn the motor till points are closed . (4) open and close points with a screw driver . (5) spark should jump off the HT wire . Ted |
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