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Old 07-30-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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Default Engine pans: one man's experience

We have been having some moderately warm weather here in Portland, and while driving my coupe last week it seemed to me the engine compartment was overly hot. There was no boiling from the radiator, but it just seemed too hot under the hood.

So I undertook to install some engine pans I had on my parts shelf, and what a difference! They were a nuisance to install, but I'm so glad I finally got to it. The engine compartment temp dropped by at least 30%, by guess. So I'm a believer. And I encourage anyone with an A in hot weather to have those pans installed. They do help.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:14 PM   #2
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I've read that the pans help direct more air out the side louvers, instead of escaping out the bottom, thus keeping the engine room cooler. I also think they just look neat, they're just a finishing touch to a well kept compartment. Bill W.
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I have a brand new (brookville) set that has been on the shelf for about a year now. I think they just might go on when I put the engine back in.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:42 AM   #4
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Engine Pans? Anyone have a picture? Is that something still available?
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:04 AM   #5
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Engine Pans? Anyone have a picture? Is that something still available?
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Yes, most of the suppliers sell them.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:18 AM   #6
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Per Snyder's catalog:

Part # A-116-P
These pans go between the motor and the frame to keep things nice and clean in the motor department! Available in plain steel or gas resistant black powder coat paint. U.S.A.
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:49 AM   #7
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I have a question about engine pans.

Is it true that you cannot use engine pans when using rear float-a-motor mounts?

I've noticed that on several cars where I have seen that rear float-a-motor mounts were used, those same cars did not have engine pans on them, and I was wondering why the engine pans apparently cannot be used.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:03 AM   #8
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A very misunderstood item on the A.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:27 AM   #9
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Click here: Engine compartment splash pans - The Ford Barn

Click here: Engine Pans - The Ford BarnIf the engine can flex in the frame, the movement makes it difficult to keep it tight to the pan rail bolts.
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I have Float a motor mounts, will these present a fit issue with Mac's pans?


I have Float-A-Motor mounts in the rear and my pans went right on (all nice and shiny).

With the pans installed you can also usually retrieve a dropped wrench without crawling under the car.



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Old 07-31-2012, 06:56 AM   #10
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Default Re: Engine pans: one man's experience

I put the engine pans on my car when I rebuilt it. After about 5 years, I put the float a motor mounts in. When I had to have the engine rebuilt a year later, I found two of the four tabs where the pan goes under the oil pan bolts had broken off. I have replaced the float a motor mounts with the original type. As soon as I get the tabs welded back on they are going back in. Sooooo, I vote for the stock rear mounts.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:08 AM   #11
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They are very useful besides the airflow benefit. When my air filter fell off, the engine pan caught it and kept me from losing it. They also make it easy to drain the coolant into a container, just rolls down the engine pan into your catch basin.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:13 AM   #12
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I had engine pans AND a float a motor rear mounts on one of my 28 roadsters with no problem.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:40 AM   #13
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Hi, does anyone know if early 28 engine pans are being reproduced OR does anyone have a decent set to sell??

I have Snyder replacements on my car which are very nice - powder coated black and shiny, but not the same as early 28.

The early pans had an extension that bolts to the front frame crossmember and also a few other slight differences.

Any pans that could be restored would be helpful.

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Old 07-31-2012, 07:44 AM   #14
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Engine pan tabs have been breaking off since the day they were installed.I bought a 28000 mile roadster,four tabs were broken off on that.Most I've seen at the flea markets have been missing tabs.I have them all all my cars,stock mounts and floaters,they seem to break just the same.One thing I did do that helped was to use a pan stud/nut combo on the pan side,and use rubber washers.Not original,and it will drop the splash pan down about 3/8 or so.Those tabs are pretty wimpy pieces of tin that are the weak link between a running engine and a very flexible frame.
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One overlooked use of the engine pans is creating the ground for the engine. The motor mounts are in rubber and do not create the best ground. The engine pans perform double duty, creating airflow and a good ground.
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Thanks CarlG........BillW I'll bet the kid turns a better wrench than your dog......Jerry
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Thanks CarlG........BillW I'll bet the kid turns a better wrench than your dog......Jerry
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We had to build new swivel seating so's we could get Gregg's legs in Vermin, my '29 coupe! Bill W.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:46 AM   #18
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Another good use of the pans on RH drive cars is to store oil containers and other trinkets in on the starter side.
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Unless you are building your car up for a show car, it makes it much easier to install the pans by tapping the existing holes in the frame to 5/16" NF, then use a nut driver to install the cap screws to hold the pan to the frame rather than the cursed original 1/4" cap screws and 4 point nuts. One person job just using the threaded frame holes.
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Are they attached to the bottom on the lower frame rail or do you have to finesse them into the area where they would sit on top of the lower frame rail?

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