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TK in LA · 02-28-2012, 04:48 PM

Does anyone have a picture of the tool to remove the guide? Picture in the Les Andrews book is not very clear.
Thanks!

CarlG · 02-28-2012, 04:57 PM

This one?

Ron/IA · 02-28-2012, 04:59 PM

From Brattons web site. Look under tools.

Ron/IA

ford1 · 02-28-2012, 05:03 PM

that is one type, its used to drive the guide down from the top of the block so you can remove the horse shoe keeper, and thus loosen the guide to help remove, i dont have a pic of the other one, it looks like a straight crow bar, its also used to remove the keeper so you can then pry up on the bottom of the valve and spring to force the guide and assembly up and out, becareful using this tool, some times the valve assemble will launch itself like a rocket across the room, some one with a clear picture of it will be along and post a pic for you

CarlG · 02-28-2012, 07:01 PM

There is no keeper holding the valve guide in. They are in there with an interference fit. The horse shoe keeper is in there to keep the valve spring in place. With the valve spring and keeper still in there, the valve could not come up high enough to get the tool pictured above on top of the guide in order to drive it out. The "straight crow bar" you refer to is for compressing the valve spring in order to get the keeper out.

ford1 · 02-28-2012, 07:28 PM

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CarlG, you are so right, im in the wrong forum, thought i was in the flathead v/8 forum, thats twice today ive made that mistake,

columbiA · 02-28-2012, 10:03 PM

The removal tool shown by CarlG is the best type as you get a straight hit on the guide.I have the other style that has the curve to fit around the valve head It works ,but its too springy & wont transfer enough force to drive out a guide that is really seized.They will work much better if you shorten it a couple inches & weld a big nut over the end.

TK in LA · 02-28-2012, 10:45 PM

columbiA, The curved remover is the one I'd like to see. Figure I should be able to Gery-rig something similar? I like the challenge!
Thanks also for all the other suggestions and pictures.

Tom Wesenberg · 02-28-2012, 10:55 PM

I have both styles, but as columbiA said the best (and only one to use) is the style that fits under the valve. If you want to make your own, that's also the easier one to make. I'd just buy it though.

acenewman · 02-28-2012, 11:17 PM

Just used the one that slips under the valve last night. Pulled all the valves out of my engine in less than an hour. That thing is priceless

Steam Engine Pete · 02-29-2012, 12:33 AM

TK in LA,
Here is a picture of the tools you are asking to see.

Pete

TK in LA · 02-29-2012, 09:09 AM

Thanks Pete!!!!! That's what I was looking for. I may still try making something different but this is a good start.
Thanks again to everyone who took the time to reply!
Tom

Jack CXI · 10-09-2017, 09:54 AM

Let me give you one PRECAUTION.
While taking a one piece valve guide out of the number one position in order to apply some Loctite, it fell into the large opening in the block that leads into the timing case.
After saying some magic words, I bit the bullet and proceeded to remove the timing case cover which necessitates detaching the front engine mount and four front oil pan bolts along with the timing case bolts.
After removing the timing case cover I made a hooked tool out of a wire coat hanger and started to fish around behind the timing gear on the end of the camshaft. After more magic words I lucked out and the hook went through the bore of the valve guide and I was able to bring the guide and tool up to the opening and retrieve the guide. I don't what would have happened if it was half of a split guide that fell into the timing case instead.
Moral of the story: put some kind of temporary blockage over the timing case opening when working on the number one valve.

02-28-2012, 04:48 PM	#1
TK in LA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Verne, Ca. Posts: 854	Valve Guide Removal tool Does anyone have a picture of the tool to remove the guide? Picture in the Les Andrews book is not very clear. Thanks!

02-28-2012, 04:59 PM	#3
Ron/IA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Amana IA Posts: 527	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool From Brattons web site. Look under tools. Ron/IA __________________ Ron/IA 1929 Fordor Steelback Hawk A Model A Ford Club http://hawkamodelaclub.org/

02-28-2012, 05:03 PM	#4
ford1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: oroville ca. Posts: 1,554	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool that is one type, its used to drive the guide down from the top of the block so you can remove the horse shoe keeper, and thus loosen the guide to help remove, i dont have a pic of the other one, it looks like a straight crow bar, its also used to remove the keeper so you can then pry up on the bottom of the valve and spring to force the guide and assembly up and out, becareful using this tool, some times the valve assemble will launch itself like a rocket across the room, some one with a clear picture of it will be along and post a pic for you

02-28-2012, 07:28 PM	#6
ford1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: oroville ca. Posts: 1,554	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) CarlG, you are so right, im in the wrong forum, thought i was in the flathead v/8 forum, thats twice today ive made that mistake,

02-28-2012, 10:03 PM	#7
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool The removal tool shown by CarlG is the best type as you get a straight hit on the guide.I have the other style that has the curve to fit around the valve head It works ,but its too springy & wont transfer enough force to drive out a guide that is really seized.They will work much better if you shorten it a couple inches & weld a big nut over the end.

02-28-2012, 10:45 PM	#8
TK in LA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Verne, Ca. Posts: 854	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool columbiA, The curved remover is the one I'd like to see. Figure I should be able to Gery-rig something similar? I like the challenge! Thanks also for all the other suggestions and pictures.

02-28-2012, 10:55 PM	#9
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool I have both styles, but as columbiA said the best (and only one to use) is the style that fits under the valve. If you want to make your own, that's also the easier one to make. I'd just buy it though.

02-28-2012, 11:17 PM	#10
acenewman Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 54	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool Just used the one that slips under the valve last night. Pulled all the valves out of my engine in less than an hour. That thing is priceless __________________ Chris Newman "The sooner you get behind, the longer you have to catch up!"

02-29-2012, 12:33 AM	#11
Steam Engine Pete Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Wahpeton, ND Posts: 138	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool TK in LA, Here is a picture of the tools you are asking to see. Pete

02-29-2012, 09:09 AM	#12
TK in LA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Verne, Ca. Posts: 854	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool Thanks Pete!!!!! That's what I was looking for. I may still try making something different but this is a good start. Thanks again to everyone who took the time to reply! Tom

10-09-2017, 09:54 AM	#13
Jack CXI Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2	Re: Valve Guide Removal tool Let me give you one PRECAUTION. While taking a one piece valve guide out of the number one position in order to apply some Loctite, it fell into the large opening in the block that leads into the timing case. After saying some magic words, I bit the bullet and proceeded to remove the timing case cover which necessitates detaching the front engine mount and four front oil pan bolts along with the timing case bolts. After removing the timing case cover I made a hooked tool out of a wire coat hanger and started to fish around behind the timing gear on the end of the camshaft. After more magic words I lucked out and the hook went through the bore of the valve guide and I was able to bring the guide and tool up to the opening and retrieve the guide. I don't what would have happened if it was half of a split guide that fell into the timing case instead. Moral of the story: put some kind of temporary blockage over the timing case opening when working on the number one valve.