Another Anti rattler/retractor spring Post

[sladefranklin]

1930 Sports Coupe for reference. (First time posting)

I have tried my best to make it through the other posts/discussions related to the brake antirattler/retractor springs. I have to replace a broken spring on my rear passenger's side (see picture) and figured I would just replace all six.

All the discussions have been fairly easy to follow related to the 4 springs on the back end of the car, but I'm not as confident on the front springs. It seems as though the springs currently on the front brake rods are installed backwards based on the Les Andrews diagram (1-45) and everything I've read or been told.

Shouldn't I be installing my front springs opposite of what they are now (see pictures), where the cups of the springs are facing the front tires instead of the center of the car?

I also included pictures of the rear springs that need to be replaced in case there is any other additional thoughts someone might have on those too. This all started with a brake pedal not returning to full position.

[johnbuckley]

The cupped side of all the springs faces away from the cross shaft ...so the desired effect the springs is to push the front rods forwards and the back rods backwards. I agree the Les Andrews page 1-45 diagram of the rear Brake Retractor Springs is confusing ... it shows the Right Hand side, but is not labelled as such. [PS the emergency brake spring is the one closest to the wheel ]

[sladefranklin]

Thanks John for the simple explanation. Not sure why the front ones were put on backwards on my coupe, but it was before my time. I'm still a little uncertain from the other posts whether the back set of springs go on back side of the bracket...the front side...or one on each side of the bracket. And if the bolt goes through the front of the bracket or through the backside of the bracket. Seems there was a lot of different opinions on the best way...just curious on the definitive answer to what was the original way. From the looks of Les Andrews diagram, both springs attach to the bracket from the backside...with the (guessing here) the bolt inserted into the front side of the bracket.

[Herb Concord Ca]

Post #2 tells you what you need to know, for maximum pressure, install the front and rear springs on the side of the bracket closest to the brake cross shaft.

[sladefranklin]

Thanks guys for the help. I got them all replaced and it seemed to do the trick on getting my brake pedal to return full. I did have to grind open the front springs a little to get the front brake rod (non clevis end) through the slot. Also have a lot of tension on the rear spring which replaced the broken one. I guess I won't be surprised if it snaps again. I appreciate your patience and help on my questions.

[J Franklin]

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[sladefranklin]

With that last name…I’ll take you at your word!!!

[stevemclark]

From Ford Service Bulletin September 1931.On the far right side. . https://archive.org/details/modelfor...p?view=theater. .These are the new springs from September 1931,better design. https://www.mikes-afordable.com/prod...504-2866B.html