'36 floor pans?

[Kube]

Guys it seems the only floor pans available are being cut from rather nicely restored cars. Or so states the numerous offers to help me have shown.
The only apparent commonality I see is there are as many floor pans available as there are scammers residing in Mommie's basement.

There's a place on eBay, classicparts4u that advertises pans. They (the pans) don't appear to be the best quality, and they(classicparts4u) don't respond to any inquiries.
So, for you "real" men... any experience with these? Can I make them work?

Here's the direct link to the '36 pans...https://www.ebay.com/itm/403634649392

And by the way, I know of Paul Bradley... don't bother...

[pbsdaddy]

Here's another choice on Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/30590219024...1ec0416b9a18bb

Here's another company, not on ebay. https://www.c2cfabrication.com/colle...h-floor-pan-rh

And still another. https://www.hotrodssheetmetal.com/191fofrflpa.html

[Kube]

Originally Posted by pbsdaddy

Here's another choice on Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/30590219024...1ec0416b9a18bb

Here's another company, not on ebay. https://www.c2cfabrication.com/colle...h-floor-pan-rh

And still another. https://www.hotrodssheetmetal.com/191fofrflpa.html

Thanks for the leads. EMS, the first link makes absolute garbage.
The second company listed sells the same pan as the one I'd noted, so still need to know of quality.
The third company makes hot rod pans.

[rich b]

Only floor that fits & looks right is one cut from an original body.

More than likely you could make floor pans that would fit and look better than that aftermarket tin.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by rich b

Only floor that fits & looks right is one cut from an original body.

More than likely you could make floor pans that would fit and look better than that aftermarket tin.

I was hoping to avoid making them, but it seems as though that may be the only decent option.

[pbsdaddy]

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Careful with the handmade pans. That's what my 35 has. I'm sure they were done back in 170, or so, when the car was last redone. But they are a very poor fit. Not that the car's lines aren't relatively straight, but that a lot of the welds wound up causing some warping of the original pans. Probably too much heat or too big a variation in the thickness of the two metals.

[uncle buck]

I have bought and used those from them several years ago after getting frustrated trying to get some more Bradley parts. They are good enough to make work with some effort. They give you the basics to work with but don’t have any “D” shaped threaded inserts. The other thing is that they are stamped in 2 pieces and lap welded. It took extra work to separate and but weld them together. I got the impression that classicparts4u are actually the people making these. If I were to order a set again I would ask if they would ship them in 2 pieces so I could fit them and butt weld them together.

[rotorwrench]

I made bucks out of plywood to fabricate pans for my 51 Mercury. They barely held up well enough to get through the process for one floor. I think Bradley had steel forms made to pound them out but that requires a fab shop with some good equipment to fabricate stuff like that. There not so much dies as they are guides for hand repousse or basically beating them out with lots of different shaped swaging tools. I find it harder to get the deep draw 1008 cold rolled steel to do the job these days.

[KiWinUS]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

I made bucks out of plywood to fabricate pans for my 51 Mercury. They barely held up well enough to get through the process for one floor. I think Bradley had steel forms made to pound them out but that requires a fab shop with some good equipment to fabricate stuff like that. There not so much dies as they are guides for hand repousse or basically beating them out with lots of different shaped swaging tools. I find it harder to get the deep draw 1008 cold rolled steel to do the job these days.

Bradley did use steel forms but were not pounded but had male dies like a bead roller the he used to form shape. Really fantastic system and amazing to watch made.

[rotorwrench]

I'd heard that he had stuff made but have never seen it. The difficult part is securing or clamping the sheet metal well enough to minimize stretch marks. I used bolts to secure the metal and then welded the holes up after. The Mercury cars of 49 thru 51 had V shaped beads. I made a swage and used angle iron to keep them straight. The thickness of the plywood controlled the bead depth. It worked well enough that I couldn't tell the difference from original and that was good enough for me. The hard part was making the patterns.

Only one guy made parts for these Mercs but I don't hear much from him anymore. He started after I had already made mine. I did purchase his inner and outer rockers though. They needed very little work to get them right.

[New2restoring]

Forgive me for jumping in on this post with a follow up question, as I have mentioned and my screen name suggests, not a mechanic or body shop experienced: my 39 1/2 ton pickup came with wood floors no metal? Please educate me as I'm confused why would a 36 have metal and a 37 wooden cab floors, thanking you in advance.

[New2restoring]

Opps, not a 1939 but 1937 Ford pickup, fat fingered it

[nelsb01]

Your pickup should have steel under the seat area with a metal riser to support the seat.
The area in front of the seat will be wood, and then there should be a metal foot board.

[uncle buck]

Originally Posted by New2restoring

Forgive me for jumping in on this post with a follow up question, as I have mentioned and my screen name suggests, not a mechanic or body shop experienced: my 39 1/2 ton pickup came with wood floors no metal? Please educate me as I'm confused why would a 36 have metal and a 37 wooden cab floors, thanking you in advance.

The biggest difference is is car vs pickup

[deuce_roadster]

When I was doing my 40 deluxe wagon, the front floor where the passenger feet go was rusted out, but the rest of the floor was fine. I called and talked with Bradley as he made wagon floor halves to the tunnel. He had a RH one that had the most minor problem at the very back where it welded to the tunnel, a blem so to speak. He sold it to me for $50 plus shipping as it wasn't good enough to sell as a full panel. The front part I needed fit perfectly after I trimmed it off the rest of the panel and I metal finished the welds, so it looked perfect.
It wasn't but a year or so later that people started having problems getting his products. A real shame because what I saw of his work was very nice.
I wonder if he sold his molds to anyone.

[KiWinUS]

Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

When I was doing my 40 deluxe wagon, the front floor where the passenger feet go was rusted out, but the rest of the floor was fine. I called and talked with Bradley as he made wagon floor halves to the tunnel. He had a RH one that had the most minor problem at the very back where it welded to the tunnel, a blem so to speak. He sold it to me for $50 plus shipping as it wasn't good enough to sell as a full panel. The front part I needed fit perfectly after I trimmed it off the rest of the panel and I metal finished the welds, so it looked perfect.
It wasn't but a year or so later that people started having problems getting his products. A real shame because what I saw of his work was very nice.
I wonder if he sold his molds to anyone.

He still has all the components and they are not for sale. Honestly I don’t believe that anyone could do anything with them it’s the knowledge he has of how to use all the components that is needed.

[325w]

I made paper patterns. Drew lines were I wanted bead rolls. Took a picture of the old ones. Sheet metal shop bent some up for me. Trimmed them to fit. Over lapped 3/8 and screwed them in place. Then welded them. Removed the screws. Welded up the holes. Seam sealed both side. On the 36 the rear floors had wood strips under them

[uncle buck]

Kube, Here is a previous thread on these floors on eBay. I posted pictures of what I received with some close ups.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...t=paul+bradley

[Kube]

Originally Posted by uncle buck

Kube, Here is a previous thread on these floors on eBay. I posted pictures of what I received with some close ups.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...t=paul+bradley

Thank you. I had looked for that thread but obviously my search was not as fruitful as yours. THANKS!

[uncle buck]

Originally Posted by Kube

Thank you. I had looked for that thread but obviously my search was not as fruitful as yours. THANKS!

I took the easy route knowing I had posted about it and even that took me a little bit. As much help and wisdom as you share here I was determined to find it for you. Thanks for all your help and sharing of knowledge.
Dave