9" rear in a jailbar truck

[tubman]

Originally Posted by L-head

If you really want to wander out in left field, considering the amount of 3/4 and 1T axles assemblies you own, why not consider building a "quick change." Use 2 left side original cast iron side bells and a Frankland center section. Your gear choices would be unlimited. Hard to beat the look of a qc under a truck or car.

I have a couple of sets of quick change gears for a Frankland left over from my "racing days" if that'll help.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

After 3 days of running around and trying to reason with fedex chatbots about how 517 Picketts lane is on an island etc...I came across a fedex stepvan pulling out of a gravel driveway and cut them off. The driver and I exchanged some info and I told her it arrived just across the sound on Friday... Then I described a plywood crate yay by yay 98 lbs. And she said 'wait a minute' and there it was ! She folloed me up the half mile of steepness and she grabbed the hand holds and carried it over and set it on the slab. I was on my way home with brak-kleen and other stuff to redo the backing plates, YAY! Got me a punkin', Thanks Lanny

[GB SISSON]

I don't know anything about quick change rear axles, so I will just plug along as planned. Been waiting on some parts and distracted by work and a few other things, but yesterday I opend the crate. I love the look of long stored parts that have been stored properly. I think Lanny had this built in the 80's so I'm gonna wager the bearings were not produced 'overseas'. Nice job of bolting this thing in Lanny! and thanks again for making the effort to get this half way across the country.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

I don't know anything about quick change rear axles, so I will just plug along as planned. Been waiting on some parts and distracted by work and a few other things, but yesterday I opend the crate. I love the look of long stored parts that have been stored properly. I think Lanny had this built in the 80's so I'm gonna wager the bearings were not produced 'overseas'. Nice job of bolting this thing in Lanny! and thanks again for making the effort to get this half way across the country.

[Lanny]

Hi Gary, Ya, I kept track of all the stops Fed-Ex made
taking the box across the country for delivery to you.
By the way, that was a super nice strong box you made.

Anyway, when Fed-Ex got to the west end of
Washington state and ran into the Pacific Ocean.
The tracking got a little wanky then.

They must of finally figured out that your address
of Orcas Island was a real Island and their little truck
had to take a ferry boat ride to find you..

Glad it made it to you safe and sound. Now Have Fun.

Thanks, Lanny




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[GB SISSON]

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I am finally making progress on this '71 F100 rear axle swap. I had a lot of work commitments and various mechanical situations with our regular driver vehicles. I suppose we should own something built in this century at some point...Have been mostly cleaning parts and painting. If my dad were still alive, I could hear him saying " What the heck you building Gary? Thing's gonna look like a goldang Circus Wagon!". I do like cleaning old steel parts with the wire wheel, priming and painting. Today I used up six partial spray cans, and my dad woulda been right, as I never seem to 'play like the other kids'. Black on black just ain't much fun. Lastly, that is ONE heavy third member Lanny sent me. Truth be told, I just thought the whole assembly would have been smaller. I do thing somebody here told me the 9" would be overkill. But Hey, it IS still a truck after all, and it's gonna still look exactly the same unless one were to crawl underneath it. But I'll know what's down there when I'm heading out on an adventure.

[cas3]

WoW Gary looks like your doin a 100 point restoration ! But...the super fine woody deserves it. I'm the snoopy guy that looks at the background, and your shop looks great.
new lathe, and the macho grinder I am jelouse of, carry on my friend!

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

I am finally making progress on this '71 F100 rear axle swap. I had a lot of work commitments and various mechanical situations with our regular driver vehicles. I suppose we should own something built in this century at some point...Have been mostly cleaning parts and painting. If my dad were still alive, I could hear him saying " What the heck you building Gary? Thing's gonna look like a goldang Circus Wagon!". I do like cleaning old steel parts with the wire wheel, priming and painting. Today I used up six partial spray cans, and my dad woulda been right, as I never seem to 'play like the other kids'. Black on black just ain't much fun. Lastly, that is ONE heavy third member Lanny sent me. Truth be told, I just thought the whole assembly would have been smaller. I do thing somebody here told me the 9" would be overkill. But Hey, it IS still a truck after all, and it's gonna still look exactly the same unless one were to crawl underneath it. But I'll know what's down there when I'm heading out on an adventure.

[GB SISSON]

Thank you Pete and Skip. Pete, your new avatar is such a great word picture, if that's the right term. It brought an instant smile to my face and made me think of this George Strait song.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...i=2h3nIMiXneYG

Sure, it's kinda sappy. So sue me....

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

Pete, your new avatar is such a great word picture, if that's the right term. It brought an instant smile to my face and made me think of this George Strait song.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...i=2h3nIMiXneYG

Sure, it's kinda sappy. So sue me....

"Dad, the fish are biting"...

Reminds me of my son on a duck hunting morning...

[Randy in ca]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

Thank you Pete and Skip. Pete, your new avatar is such a great word picture, if that's the right term. It brought an instant smile to my face and made me think of this George Strait song.........

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Indeed a classic image from amongst the hundreds that graced the front pages of the Saturday Evening Post over the years.

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[GB SISSON]

I have my 2 son in laws here this weekend. Lifting the 85lb pumpkin onto the axle on sawhorses just got easier. Should I use any sealer on the gasket? and one side or both?

[sidevalve8ba]

I always do, Gary. Both sides.

[51504bat]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

I have my 2 son in laws here this weekend. Lifting the 85lb pumpkin onto the axle on sawhorses just got easier. Should I use any sealer on the gasket? and one side or both?

I'm in the grease on both sides camp. Others may have different opinions.

[GB SISSON]

The fairly thick paper gasket came from speedway. I ended up using permatex #2 on both sides. I think the paper gasket would split down the middle if the pumpkin ever has to come out. Got one backing plate all assembled with brakes. Other one tomorrow. The housing that I bought had nice brake cables and I'm hoping they work with the 1947 version of parking brake hardware that's under the woodie. Then I still have to decide where to convert from the '47s 1/4" brake tubing to the '71's 3/16". Another perhaps slight modification would be to the cast/forged 4 hole piece under the axle tubes. The plate that the U bolts pass through. The 47 has tapered tubes and these plates are made to fit the taper. If I use these plates unmodified on my straight tubes, will I risk putting undue strain on them? They must be some tough material as I've never seen a broken one.

[cas3]

I believe it all relies on the round head of the spring bolt to locate and secure any movement. So, U bolts will still do the job just fine.

[Randy in ca]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

I have my 2 son in laws here this weekend. Lifting the 85lb pumpkin onto the axle on sawhorses just got easier. Should I use any sealer on the gasket? and one side or both?

You could get just as many opinions on this question as you would from asking what type and grade of engine oil is best!! Many different opinions on what works the best. Use new copper washers for sure.

[Randy in ca]

I would try using the two different brake line sizes initially and see how that works out - might have to install a common adjustable proportioning valve eventually.

Does this resemble your current spring setup?

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[GB SISSON]

Thanks Randy. I'm happy with the sealant I chose (and the oil I use) . And yes, those parts are what I have under the 1/2 ton truck based woodie. The cap piece is what I am addressing here. As they were cast or forged they have a larger radius on one end that the other because of the banjo axle tubes being tapered., the end twds the banjo has the larger radius. The wheel end has the perfect radius for the 9" axles straight tubes. It is spot on. On the banjo side the radius contacts in the center but is open as the eye follows upwards. When the U bolts are snugged up, I feel that this cap piece will try to crack or break on the fulcrum that is the straight tube. Maybe I will bend a piece of steel strap for this side as a shim. I think I better go down to the shop and get some pics. Edit: I did not know about copper washers so used lock washers. The pumpkin is just snugged firm at this point so will switch them out.

[cas3]

I believe those brackets are forged, not cast iron, so you should be able to heat them up and make the shape you are happy with ?