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Shoebox · 11-11-2021, 06:17 PM

I went through this over 10 years ago and just can't remember. In a 6 cylinder car the radiator mounts ahead of the core support. In a V8 the rad mounts behind the support. Are there 2 different supports or (dare I say) like in a 55 chev, the radiator simply mounts in the front or back position? Thanks!

Shoebox · 11-12-2021, 10:50 AM

Anyone?

Ken Henry · 11-14-2021, 08:27 AM

I looked in my restorer’s guide but didnt see anything. Maybe the shop manual… You might try calling Chris at Shoebox central. Ken

Shoebox · 11-14-2021, 11:19 AM

Thanks Ken, .... what do you have for a "restorer's guide"?

51504bat · 11-14-2021, 01:00 PM

Lee at Brassworks would know. I know they are super busy but when I ordered the radiator for my '39 p/u he spent a lot of time on the phone and by email to insure everything was correct. Nice guy on the phone and in person as well when I picked it up.

fordy_nine · 11-14-2021, 04:17 PM

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There are 2 different mounts but they also attach differently; the 6 cyl. part mounts in front and the 8 cyl. version mounts behind the crossmember....Bob L

Shoebox · 11-14-2021, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fordy_nine

There are 2 different mounts but they also attach differently; the 6 cyl. part mounts in front and the 8 cyl. version mounts behind the crossmember....Bob L

Thanks for the response, I know the radiators mount in different positions, what I don't remember is if a different core support is needed, I am checking my service manual as I type this. Thank you.

JHFORD51 · 11-14-2021, 11:20 PM

The stamped u shaped core support is the same regardless of engine, 8A-16139. The sheet metal air deflector above the radiator is different, 8HA-8327 for the 6 cylinder.

Ken Henry · 11-15-2021, 07:33 AM

The book is 1949 50 51 Ford book, a restorer’s guide, published by the early Ford v8 club

Shoebox · 11-15-2021, 08:42 AM

JHFORD51,
THANK YOU, ........ that's what I had thought/hoped. I did just acquire an nos V8 air deflector. Ken Henry thanks, will have to add that book to the library.

JHFORD51 · 11-15-2021, 01:19 PM

The IPB also lists different front portions of the inner fenders (where the air inlets are for the interior heating and ventilation). I don't know for sure, but I guess for battery box installation. These are 8HA-16043 and 8HA-16055. Once had a 6 cyl car that had been retrofitted with a V8 and it fit fine; they never even changed the grille bullet so I know they didn't change the inner fenders!

This would be a good question with pictorial differences for the EFV8 49-51 advisor.

amodel25 · 01-31-2022, 04:43 PM

The 6 cylinder passenger side inner fender has a removable panel to allow access for servicing the valves.

11-11-2021, 06:17 PM	#1
Shoebox Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Holmen,Wisconsin Posts: 983	51 ford car-radiator placement I went through this over 10 years ago and just can't remember. In a 6 cylinder car the radiator mounts ahead of the core support. In a V8 the rad mounts behind the support. Are there 2 different supports or (dare I say) like in a 55 chev, the radiator simply mounts in the front or back position? Thanks! __________________ I went, I saw, I bought the T shirt 51 Ford Deluxe Tudor 32 Ford roadster 39 Mercury Towncar

11-12-2021, 10:50 AM	#2
Shoebox Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Holmen,Wisconsin Posts: 983	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement Anyone? __________________ I went, I saw, I bought the T shirt 51 Ford Deluxe Tudor 32 Ford roadster 39 Mercury Towncar

11-14-2021, 08:27 AM	#3
Ken Henry Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 266	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement I looked in my restorer’s guide but didnt see anything. Maybe the shop manual… You might try calling Chris at Shoebox central. Ken

11-14-2021, 11:19 AM	#4
Shoebox Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Holmen,Wisconsin Posts: 983	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement Thanks Ken, .... what do you have for a "restorer's guide"? __________________ I went, I saw, I bought the T shirt 51 Ford Deluxe Tudor 32 Ford roadster 39 Mercury Towncar

11-14-2021, 01:00 PM	#5
51504bat Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal-Redlands Posts: 3,413	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement Lee at Brassworks would know. I know they are super busy but when I ordered the radiator for my '39 p/u he spent a lot of time on the phone and by email to insure everything was correct. Nice guy on the phone and in person as well when I picked it up. __________________ Making the simple complicated for over 30 years.

11-14-2021, 04:17 PM	#6
fordy_nine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springboro. Ohio Posts: 212	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) There are 2 different mounts but they also attach differently; the 6 cyl. part mounts in front and the 8 cyl. version mounts behind the crossmember....Bob L

11-14-2021, 11:20 PM	#8
JHFORD51 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 259	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement The stamped u shaped core support is the same regardless of engine, 8A-16139. The sheet metal air deflector above the radiator is different, 8HA-8327 for the 6 cylinder.

11-15-2021, 07:33 AM	#9
Ken Henry Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 266	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement The book is 1949 50 51 Ford book, a restorer’s guide, published by the early Ford v8 club Last edited by Ken Henry; 11-15-2021 at 09:23 AM.

11-15-2021, 08:42 AM	#10
Shoebox Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Holmen,Wisconsin Posts: 983	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement JHFORD51, THANK YOU, ........ that's what I had thought/hoped. I did just acquire an nos V8 air deflector. Ken Henry thanks, will have to add that book to the library. __________________ I went, I saw, I bought the T shirt 51 Ford Deluxe Tudor 32 Ford roadster 39 Mercury Towncar

11-15-2021, 01:19 PM	#11
JHFORD51 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 259	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement The IPB also lists different front portions of the inner fenders (where the air inlets are for the interior heating and ventilation). I don't know for sure, but I guess for battery box installation. These are 8HA-16043 and 8HA-16055. Once had a 6 cyl car that had been retrofitted with a V8 and it fit fine; they never even changed the grille bullet so I know they didn't change the inner fenders! This would be a good question with pictorial differences for the EFV8 49-51 advisor.

01-31-2022, 04:43 PM	#12
amodel25 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Crowley, TX Posts: 328	Re: 51 ford car-radiator placement The 6 cylinder passenger side inner fender has a removable panel to allow access for servicing the valves.