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deuce lover · 10-19-2021, 12:51 AM

Here it is still in the Military "Cargo"from mid 1950's. The seller wants 950 Euros(about $1100) for it.Its not the one that most are looking for that use the 8BA heads. These are like the 59A.Notice the location of the dist. Pete or Mercman please enlarge.Thanks

petehoovie · 10-19-2021, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover

Here it is still in the Military "Cargo"from mid 1950's. The seller wants 950 Euros(about $1100) for it.Its not the one that most are looking for that use the 8BA heads. These are like the 59A.Notice the location of the dist. Pete or Mercman please enlarge.Thanks

mercman from oz · 10-19-2021, 01:13 AM

French Flathead by deuce lover

deuce lover · 10-19-2021, 02:26 AM

Thanks to you both !!

Tim Ayers · 10-19-2021, 05:53 AM

Can you remove the stock distributor and run a crab or helmet off the cam like Ford? I see a block off plate on the front cover. I never knew they made two types.

Mart · 10-19-2021, 06:18 AM

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I had a German engine with that same distributor position and the block off plate. I removed the plate and ran a helmet on it, then switched to a crab type. Cam was long nose type.

rockfla · 10-19-2021, 06:54 AM

Thanks for sharing Sheldon. Cool stuff.......Excuse my ignorance but where or how is the distributor being run?

alanwoodieman · 10-19-2021, 06:57 AM

back of cam, like the oil pump

rockfla · 10-19-2021, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by alanwoodieman

back of cam, like the oil pump

SO is it through the hole where one would normally put the oil pressure sending unit?? OR is there an access hole in the back of the block???

KiWinUS · 10-19-2021, 07:57 AM

Typically a governor in that location on French engines where this distributor is.

Adam/Mill Valley CA · 10-19-2021, 08:27 AM

Could you please elaborate as to what type of vehicle (Military "Cargo") this is?
Thanks,

Adam

deuce lover · 10-19-2021, 08:35 AM

The "Cargo's were 1955-63 made by Simca.They are equivalent to the "Deuce and 1/2 trucks we had in the army.I have a friend sending me pics which I will post. Those engines were 3.9 litre.The later "Marmon" were 4.2 litre with the 4" crank. I happen to have a Metric 97 (marked 24.6)that came off a cargo engine.I put a USA 97 base on it.The aluminum oil pan in last 2 pics are off a Cargo engine.See pics.
First pic is of the Cargo. 2nd pic is of the Marmon.Pete please enlarge.Very last pic is of the 1956 "Cargo".Thanks

Yoyodyne · 10-19-2021, 10:09 AM

I guess this is a good place to post these I took at Hershey.

petehoovie · 10-19-2021, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover

The "Cargo's were 1955-63 made by Simca.They are equivalent to the "Deuce and 1/2 trucks we had in the army.
First pic is of the Cargo. 2nd pic is of the Marmon.Pete please enlarge.Very last pic is of the 1956 "Cargo".Thanks

petehoovie · 10-19-2021, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoyodyne

I guess this is a good place to post these I took at Hershey.

Tim Ayers · 10-19-2021, 01:12 PM

I have one of the French 4" cranks. I wish I had one of those oil pans. They looks cool.

petehoovie · 10-19-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

I have one of the French 4" cranks. I wish I had one of those oil pans. They looks cool.

miwi · 10-19-2021, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover

Here it is still in the Military "Cargo"from mid 1950's. The seller wants 950 Euros(about $1100) for it.Its not the one that most are looking for that use the 8BA heads. These are like the 59A.Notice the location of the dist. Pete or Mercman please enlarge.Thanks

On German flatheads the dissy was located at the rear of the engine. SO it seems that this one is not a french it should be a german G29 enigne

KiWinUS · 10-19-2021, 03:50 PM

Agree Tim. Nice oil pan. I believe you need this engine.

Tim Ayers · 10-19-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwinus

agree tim. Nice oil pan. I believe you need this engine.

ttt

10-19-2021, 01:13 AM	#3
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 12,009	Re: French Flathead French Flathead by deuce lover

10-19-2021, 02:26 AM	#4
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,833	Re: French Flathead Thanks to you both !!

10-19-2021, 05:53 AM	#5
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,917	Re: French Flathead Can you remove the stock distributor and run a crab or helmet off the cam like Ford? I see a block off plate on the front cover. I never knew they made two types.

10-19-2021, 06:18 AM	#6
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,084	Re: French Flathead Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I had a German engine with that same distributor position and the block off plate. I removed the plate and ran a helmet on it, then switched to a crab type. Cam was long nose type.

10-19-2021, 06:54 AM	#7
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 4,804	Re: French Flathead in the womb Thanks for sharing Sheldon. Cool stuff.......Excuse my ignorance but where or how is the distributor being run?

10-19-2021, 06:57 AM	#8
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 3,000	Re: French Flathead in the womb back of cam, like the oil pump

10-19-2021, 07:57 AM	#10
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 3,262	Re: French Flathead in the womb Typically a governor in that location on French engines where this distributor is.

10-19-2021, 08:27 AM	#11
Adam/Mill Valley CA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,CA Posts: 299	Re: French Flathead in the womb Could you please elaborate as to what type of vehicle (Military "Cargo") this is? Thanks, Adam __________________ 1936 pickup, stock, black 1965 Mustang coupe 289/4bbl, black/red 1971 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 coupe, dark red/tan 1970 911E 2.2 litre dark blue/black 1968 BMW R50/2 US, black (m'cycle) 1967 Triumph TR6R , sea foam/cream (m'cycle) 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 red (m'cycle) 1974 Honda CB750 red (m'cycle) 2000 Kawasaki W650 blue/silver (m'cycle)

10-19-2021, 01:12 PM	#16
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,917	Re: French Flathead in the womb I have one of the French 4" cranks. I wish I had one of those oil pans. They looks cool.

10-19-2021, 03:50 PM	#19
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 3,262	Re: French Flathead in the womb Agree Tim. Nice oil pan. I believe you need this engine.