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daveymc29 · 07-30-2021, 04:49 PM

So friends have come to the conclusion that the solenoid is trash. When out on the bench and 6V power is applied to it the plunger just oscillates in and out. I an told it should snap in and stay there, so at this point I am going to send it to Tom Endy, if he will have it. Anyone near Danville, Ca selling one?

Thanks to all who helped.

1931 flamingo · 07-31-2021, 08:33 AM

Enlighten us as to what sol you're speaking of or send us to the original post please.

Paul in CT

Bob C · 07-31-2021, 11:20 AM

Did you use a good battery and heavy wire to test the solenoid? It take quite a bit
of current to pull the solenoid in then the holding windings take over.
Have you seen the BW manual Tom Endy posted? http://www.santaanitaas.org/wp-conte...ner-manual.pdf

Doug Linden · 07-31-2021, 12:47 PM

Dave, Is this for a Borg-Warner overdrive?

katy · 07-31-2021, 12:55 PM

Try this:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301734

daveymc29 · 07-31-2021, 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

Enlighten us as to what sol you're speaking of or send us to the original post please.

Paul in CT

Borg Warner overdrive, built into the torque tube. The overdrive quit engaging and the owner passed away before he got around to repairing it. I'm not very good at working on these, but did try to get some ideas from Tom Endy's posts and several others. Friends have also come by and done their thing with advice and meters and such. The conclusion I'm getting is that the solenoid is in need of replacement or rebuilding. It's typical Model A. 6V, possitive ground with a push button kick down switch, all done back in the 70's. It's in a big sedan, Murray body 1931. Nice car and I'm just trying to help the owners son get it fixed. I havr a similat set up in my coupe, but it is wired 12V neg. groung and no kick down, just one electrical wire to the unit fron a switch on the column to the solenoid and the cable on my shift lever to engage it. Works quite well, 4:11 rear and 33% overdrive.

McMimmcs · 07-31-2021, 08:11 PM

okay important question Davey! Who nicknamed you Ace Mechanic?

daveymc29 · 07-31-2021, 09:08 PM

Snoopy in France, 1917, over a fag and coffee as I repaired his Sopworth Camel, shot up by the Red Baron.

bbrocksr · 08-01-2021, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveymc29

Snoopy in France, 1917, over a fag and coffee as I repaired his Sopworth Camel, shot up by the Red Baron.

Good one, Ace.
Bill

nkaminar · 08-01-2021, 07:47 AM

I am no BW expert but is it possible that the solenoid is 12 volts not 6?

07-30-2021, 04:49 PM	#1
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,566	Update from the Ace Mechanic So friends have come to the conclusion that the solenoid is trash. When out on the bench and 6V power is applied to it the plunger just oscillates in and out. I an told it should snap in and stay there, so at this point I am going to send it to Tom Endy, if he will have it. Anyone near Danville, Ca selling one? Thanks to all who helped.

07-31-2021, 08:33 AM	#2
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,428	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic Enlighten us as to what sol you're speaking of or send us to the original post please. Paul in CT

07-31-2021, 11:20 AM	#3
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,356	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic Did you use a good battery and heavy wire to test the solenoid? It take quite a bit of current to pull the solenoid in then the holding windings take over. Have you seen the BW manual Tom Endy posted? http://www.santaanitaas.org/wp-conte...ner-manual.pdf

07-31-2021, 12:47 PM	#4
Doug Linden Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 292	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic Dave, Is this for a Borg-Warner overdrive?

07-31-2021, 12:55 PM	#5
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,707	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic Try this: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301734 __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

07-31-2021, 08:11 PM	#7
McMimmcs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Gratiot, Michigan Posts: 2,296	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic okay important question Davey! Who nicknamed you Ace Mechanic?

07-31-2021, 09:08 PM	#8
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,566	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic Snoopy in France, 1917, over a fag and coffee as I repaired his Sopworth Camel, shot up by the Red Baron.

08-01-2021, 07:47 AM	#10
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,851	Re: Update from the Ace Mechanic I am no BW expert but is it possible that the solenoid is 12 volts not 6? __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.