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Does anyone know the original part number for the Body to Frame Welting?
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16540
16541 16542 16543 16540-A is for 28-29 front fenders. 16540-B is longer as it extends to the front tip of the fender @ the apron. 16541 was introduced with the new running board aprons in mid '28. I think that answers all the questions that would have arose when looking them up.
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The only difference I can see from A-16540-A and A-16540-B is when Ford specified that the the "A" be the strip with "round" holes and the "B" was the "strip" with "elongated" holes. This change was implimented on October 15, 1929 according to the Part Releases. Pluck |
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Marco, do you have details of these pieces? Also, what is the thickness?
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Thanks Steve,...I was a-little-lost....
Wasn't there 2 of them on each side, that overlapped, maybe on the 28's? |
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Photo shows a sample of my original welting found under my Jan 28 side splash apron = 2” wide x 1/16” thick |
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I thought you had originals. Although I posted that info years ago I can't recall specifically and it appears all my samples are still at the old house. The one thing I can say is that both the front fender to frame anti-squeak and running board apron to frame anti-squeak are the same thickness as the original floor board anti-squeak. I would bet you have samples of that.
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remeasured with better calipers .. this is the 'smushed' part (i.e., under apron/fender .... the unsmushed is thicker/covered with mud/oil
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Thanks Marco. I do have a set of 16540-A front fender webbing pieces. They are definately 1-3/4" wide and extend from the front of the frame rail to 3" beyond the front body mount bolt. I don't have the 16540-B pieces though and am wondering what they are like for the early-style running board shields since the shields don't lay on the frame rail all the way back to the rear fender.
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Gary,
As I said in my post, there was no rear section until the aprons were changed in mid '28. My best guess is that when they transitioned to the later configuration they shortened the length of A-16540. And of course the "A" suffix wasn't used until the "B" version was introduced for the 1930 models. The one thing that still confuses me is just why they chose to segment the anti-squeak at all. I've not yet found the logic in it.
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I've never thought about it. If one piece of the webbing was tacked (stuck) to the fender and the other to the apron...?? the lengths would be easily handled, they would stay where they belonged...hmmm..
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Please,....I'm not understanding which parts(welt/webbing/anti-squeak) were placed
on the cars, from start of production too when they used one piece from the front frame horn to just past the end of the shield. I just can't "see it", and weren't there two at one time? Thanks, Dudley |
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It's important to note for those unfamiliar that there was also a small piece on each bracket that would otherwise make contact with the bottom of the fender and/or apron. Quote:
All years the front fender, running board, and running board shield were all assembled together on a padded bench. As the chassis approached the station on the assembly line where the fender and running board assembly was to be installed, the webbing was laid down on the frame rail.
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I get it now......
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As a matter of curiosity, I wonder if the fender bracket was pre installed to the fender and then bolted to the frame as part of this completed assembly. I, for one, really enjoy hearing of the nuances of the assembly process!! ![]() Last edited by Charles Reese; 07-06-2012 at 09:37 PM. |
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I have the assembly procedure as documented by 'American machinist magazine' on my site. check around step 49 and the photos.
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Charles, the fender brace was installed on the frame pryer. Look at 1997 JS page 2-11... |
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