1941 Pickup spare tire carrier

[art ebeling]

Can someone post a picture of a 41 Pickup spare tire carrier/bracket? Thanks, Art

[Kube]

Originally Posted by art ebeling

Can someone post a picture of a 41 Pickup spare tire carrier/bracket? Thanks, Art

Art, the best I am able to do at the moment is this copy from Drake's catalog. This type was used for most of 1940 and all of 1941.
This type was welded to the bed side.
I hope this helps.

Have to wonder if he or a different parts supplier may have one.

[34fordy]

[QUOTE=Kube;2360097]Art, the best I am able to do at the moment is this copy from Drake's catalog. This type was used for most of 1940 and all of 1941.
This type was welded to the bed side.

Was this on the inside of the box?

[Kube]

[QUOTE=34fordy;2360100]

Originally Posted by Kube

Art, the best I am able to do at the moment is this copy from Drake's catalog. This type was used for most of 1940 and all of 1941.
This type was welded to the bed side.

Was this on the inside of the box?

No sir, it was on the outside of the box.

I have attached a photo of a '40 I'd restored. It was built with the earlier type design tire carrier. However, the location of the spare remained the same with the later type carrier.
The earlier design was definitely much stronger. However, it was most certainly much costlier to build and install.

[art ebeling]

Thanks, Kube, I have this one available to me. It has one end cut off which could be an easy fix but I can't tell if it is correct. Art

[Kube]

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Originally Posted by art ebeling

Thanks, Kube, I have this one available to me. It has one end cut off which could be an easy fix but I can't tell if it is correct. Art

Art, if it was me, I'd keep looking.

[Floyd]

I have a pic of the bracket from my '40. The bracket was "farmer welded" to the bed side along with lots of bad welding on the broken fenders etc. These trucks used on the farm had everything crack and fall off. The farmers rewelded everything back together until they got tired of doing it and then just threw the parts away. This included the tire carrier and the rear fenders. That is why these parts are hard to come by. When I removed all the dogsh*t looking weld from the bracket I found the two holes shown in the bracket. My opinion was that these were originally riveted onto the bed as there was no other welding on the bed parts. Everything eas riveted. I installed my bracket with button head screws and filled the heads. Others may disagree and know way more than I do.

[Kube]

Floyd, my memory is not what it once was. You may be correct about how this was attached to the bed.
Regardless, these were often repair welded as you suggested as they were rather weak in design.

[Floyd]

Mike, I don't have the drawings to determine what is correctly-correct. It is that I "found the perfectly round holes under all the No penetration welding. Riveting would make sense as it would perfectly locate the bracket which critical to getting the tire so it does not hit the fender, bed or cab. For those that are working on these trucks, be very careful on where you mount the bracket. The attachment, being rivets or welding is just a bad design for any vibration given the weight of the wheel/tire and the requirement to not hit anything. Although it does have some adjustment, the location is critical. Any small error and the tire will hit the fender well, the running board , the cab side or maybe interfere with the door.
As always- measure twice, do it again and then consider the next step.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by Floyd

Mike, I don't have the drawings to determine what is correctly-correct. It is that I "found the perfectly round holes under all the No penetration welding. Riveting would make sense as it would perfectly locate the bracket which critical to getting the tire so it does not hit the fender, bed or cab. For those that are working on these trucks, be very careful on where you mount the bracket. The attachment, being rivets or welding is just a bad design for any vibration given the weight of the wheel/tire and the requirement to not hit anything. Although it does have some adjustment, the location is critical. Any small error and the tire will hit the fender well, the running board , the cab side or maybe interfere with the door.
As always- measure twice, do it again and then consider the next step.

All good advice.
I suppose I was fortunate with the truck I'd restored as it had the earlier style. That fit in one place and one place only.
Very strong design indeed.

I agree with you 100% about those brackets cracking due to the poor design.

[rustynut4247]

we used to make these .the black one in drakes catalog is one of ours

[art ebeling]

Originally Posted by rustynut4247

we used to make these .the black one in drakes catalog is one of ours

None of the suppliers have these. Do you have one or the drawings for one? Art

[rustynut4247]

floid has it right the 4247 is like the rusty one is made diffrent and mounts on the drivers side

[411Ton]

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[art ebeling]

Originally Posted by 411Ton

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