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02-26-2024, 11:58 PM | #1 |
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Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
Fordbarn is great, but there is a gap in its coverage. The small European Fords which had small scale 4 bangers made from 1932 and on thru the Flathead era do not fit into any Fordbarn category. They are not Model Ts, Model As or V8s, but are Early Fords, so there is a need for another forum. I have mentioned this to Ryan and he seemed to like the idea, but I put the post here to gather support and think of the rules for the forum. I propose the title to be Non US Ford Based Flathead era. Fordbarn now is naturally and rightly so American based, but there are many global variations of Fords which don't fit well into existing Fordbarn Forums, so this would be the one place to catch all of them. Ford France was sold to Simca in 1954, who kept making Ford based Flathead engines, including what are now commonly called French Flatheads until about 1990, so all the engines they made from 1954 to 1990 are technically not Fords, and the Flathead era went on to 1990. So that is why I choose the title Non US Ford Based Flathead Era. The rules are you can discuss any Ford based Flathead engine, and any vehicle originally fitted with a Ford based Flathead engine. Ford of England, France and Germany made their own vehicles with similarities and differences. GAZ in Russia made versions of Fords for long times. Australia had Utes and other bodies of their own. I think Non US Ford Based Flathead Era would fill the gap and cover all aspects.
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02-27-2024, 12:26 AM | #2 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
Very good, I agree!
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02-27-2024, 12:31 AM | #3 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
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Why the heck NOT? And, we damned sure can't forget the ANGLIAS & PREFECTS that were instrumental in helping to firmly establish the early A/Gas class wars of yesteryear. Coop |
02-27-2024, 01:17 AM | #4 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
I've never seen a non-US Ford in person. Before rendering an opinion I will need to have a specimen donated to me for proper inspection
Seriously, I like the idea.
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
No mention of Canada? Ask any Canadian, their Fords were non U.S. too! And then there are the unique-to-Australia Fords.
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02-28-2024, 01:13 PM | #6 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
Your idea sounds good to me.
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02-27-2024, 08:04 PM | #8 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
Having owned a 1937 Ford 8 "model 7Y" some years ago, and currently actively seeking a Model Y or C/CX, I wholeheartedly support this addition. The website below gives some additional info on these little beauties. They will be familiar to EV8 fellas, The cars are like junior versions of our "big" American Fords.
www.fordyandcmodelregister.co.uk/ another source is: www.smallfordspares.co.uk Also a Facebook page: " Ford Y & C Public Page" If anyone has one here stateside they're interested in selling, shoot me a PM |
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Here's one for sale at the moment. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/c...ing/4595586339 GB
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03-10-2024, 02:58 AM | #11 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
Spotlight on Ford of France
Matford.jpg FordVedette1.jpg FordVedette2.jpg SUMB.jpg Ford of France started by assembling Model Ts and then Model As and then Model Ys. Ford collaborated with Mathis to produce Matfords which looked something like a scaled down 1937 Lincoln Zephyr and had V8 60s and full size flatheads. After the war they made cars that looked like scaled down Mercurys with V8 60s and some that were like full size Mercurys with full size V8s. They made other cars with V8 60s and full size V8s that looked like American cars of the era. Simca bought Ford France in 1954, and that included the flathead engine. Simca kept making cars with V8 60s and full size flatheads.Simca opened a factory in Brazil where they made V8 60s. Simca made flathead cars in France until about 1961 and in Brazil until 1964. Simca made the SUMB which was a French military vehicle with a flathead. They made flatheads until about 1990. Occasionally, people ask questions about European Fords on Fordbarn and they do not get good answers because it is considered oddball and almost off topic. All of these vehicles would be the main focus of the new forum, and we could go into a lot more detail on all of them. One more forum would give Fordbarn complete global coverage of the Ford Flathead. |
02-27-2024, 11:18 PM | #12 |
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Thank you for your support. We are talking about the kind of cars that V8Coopman has pictured. For those who don't know, this is a 1953-59 Ford Popular. It has an engine which is like a scaled down 4 banger and mechanicals like a scaled down American early Ford. The same basic design came out in 1937 and they kept making it until 1959. It does not fit into any of the Fordbarn categories and nobody talks about them on Fordbarn. There are many others including the 7Y which Johndee138 refers to. I will run thru them gradually.
DavidG-we love Canada and the Canadian Ford plant was the first foreign Ford plant and opened the door to all the other Ford plants, but I think that all the cars they made in our era were the same as US Fords so no special mention for Canada here. Sorry! |
02-28-2024, 08:51 AM | #13 |
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As and American V8 Ford era enthusiast, with Bratwurst & Stein of Warsteiner slant of course, I will be in favor of such page and will contribute as well!!! Last edited by rockfla; 02-28-2024 at 09:04 AM. |
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I see no reason not to. Sounds good to me! - F F
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02-28-2024, 10:58 AM | #15 |
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That sound great. I'm owing a 1933 Ford Model Y Cairn Drophead Coupe by Salmson & Sons(Tickford). johndee138 posted some useful links for Model Y and Model C. I'm the webmaster of https://www.fordyandcmodelregister.co.uk/index.html. I also can provide information about the German cousins of the Y and C, the Köln and Eifel.
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02-28-2024, 12:47 PM | #17 |
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Re: Proposed New Fordbarn Forum: Non US Ford Based Flathead Era
Hello All,
I kind of like my 1933 Canadian built cabriolet. Canadian built Fords are fairly scarce these days. I’m still looking for a set of “Made in Canada” cylinder heads for it. |
02-28-2024, 01:08 PM | #18 |
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02-28-2024, 01:14 PM | #19 |
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Has anyone found any websites or information resources for Non-USA Ford trucks?
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02-28-2024, 02:13 PM | #20 |
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I hate to see another bucket added that I will need to check.
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