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marc hildebrant · 03-31-2014, 02:54 PM

Group,

A chunk came off my fan belt and I'm trying to replace it. I'm having a lot of trouble getting the belt around the engine pulley.

The car has a 6 Volt Alternator and came with a belt # 42-6324. I do not know the brand.

The only way that I could remove the belt from the engine pulley was to put the part with the "chunk" removed around the engine pulley. That gave me enough clearance to remove the belt.

Is there a "skinny" belt that I should use ? The old one fit the pulleys nice and worked fine.

There seems to be little clearance under the engine pulley for a belt ?

Marc

Mike V. Florida · 03-31-2014, 03:06 PM

Sounds like engine mount problem. Does the crank block line up with the crank nut allowing the use of the hand crank to spin the engine?

Bill Lee/Virginia · 03-31-2014, 03:13 PM

I purchased a belt that was 1 inch longer and it fits like a glove. I do not have the belt stock number since it was several years ago. Try it. Luck.
Bill Lee/Virginia Peninsula

BlueSunoco · 02-19-2015, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Lee/Virginia

I purchased a belt that was 1 inch longer and it fits like a glove. I do not have the belt stock number since it was several years ago. Try it. Luck.
Bill Lee/Virginia Peninsula

Bill, did you ever find the part no. of that belt and/or mfg.?? Thanks

CarlG · 03-31-2014, 03:38 PM

If the belt won't go around the crank pulley, jack the engine up slightly and it will slip right in. Just be sure to put a block of wood between the pan and your jack.

JBill · 03-31-2014, 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG

If the belt won't go around the crank pulley, jack the engine up slightly and it will slip right in. Just be sure to put a block of wood between the pan and your jack.

Maybe this is just assumed, but I think it would be a good idea to also slightly loosen the single bold holding the front motor mount in the crossmember.

johnbuckley · 03-31-2014, 03:41 PM

spot on Carl

Fred K-OR · 03-31-2014, 04:24 PM

The above comments sounds like what I have to do also to replace my huckster belt. You may want to put something under your front motor mount to get it to sit a little higher so if you break down on the road sometime, you could replace it a little easer. Just make sure your crank will fit in pulley.

marc hildebrant · 03-31-2014, 04:35 PM

Folks,

Thanks for the comments. Currently, the crank fits very well into the engine pulley.

If I raise the motor slightly, do I need to do anything with the front bolt setting ?

Marc

CarlG · 03-31-2014, 04:58 PM

There is usually enough spring action there to lift it up the 1/8 or so needed to clear the belt.

Duffy1 · 03-31-2014, 06:10 PM

Depending on how close it is to going around the pulley . Mine was close so I stretched the belt using my floor jack. If it is close to going on you might want to give this a try before doing any thing else.

Fred K-OR · 03-31-2014, 06:18 PM

Do you maybe have some old dirt or something on your front cross member under the pulley that you could clean off also and get more clearance?

Mitch//pa · 03-31-2014, 07:51 PM

if the front castellation

nut is drawn down to tight that can be the difference. the front motor mount is supposed to float on the springs..

marc hildebrant · 03-31-2014, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

if the front castellation

nut is drawn down to tight that can be the difference. the front motor mount is supposed to float on the springs..

Mitch,

How should the nut be set ?

Marc

Mitch//pa · 03-31-2014, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc hildebrant

Mitch,

How should the nut be set ?

Marc

i set it just enough to get the cotter pin in.

Purdy Swoft · 03-31-2014, 09:17 PM

I agree with Mitch!!! I only tighten the castellated nut enough to just get the cotter pin through the hole. If the nut is tightened more it will also cause vibration.

Bruce Adams · 03-31-2014, 09:24 PM

If its CLOSE, then make a garrot from a string with a couple of loops (Bowline knots) on each end, put it through the belt and pull it to length to go over the alternator's pulley.

marc hildebrant · 03-31-2014, 09:32 PM

With regard to lifting the motor with a floor jack/wood on the oil pan...

Can the pan support the motor without crumbling ?

Marc

Purdy Swoft · 03-31-2014, 09:41 PM

Yes, you won't have to jack it up that much. I would also loosen the rear motor mount bolts to the engine, This will take strain off the flywheel housing.

pat in Santa Cruz · 03-31-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

Yes, you won't have to jack it up that much. I would also loosen the rear motor mount bolts to the engine, This will take strain off the flywheel housing.

I strongly agree with this suggestion. You do not want to crack the flywheel housing.

03-31-2014, 02:54 PM	#1
marc hildebrant Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,128	How to Install Fan Belt Group, A chunk came off my fan belt and I'm trying to replace it. I'm having a lot of trouble getting the belt around the engine pulley. The car has a 6 Volt Alternator and came with a belt # 42-6324. I do not know the brand. The only way that I could remove the belt from the engine pulley was to put the part with the "chunk" removed around the engine pulley. That gave me enough clearance to remove the belt. Is there a "skinny" belt that I should use ? The old one fit the pulleys nice and worked fine. There seems to be little clearance under the engine pulley for a belt ? Marc

03-31-2014, 03:06 PM	#2
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida between Sarasota and TampaSouth Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: How to Install Fan Belt Sounds like engine mount problem. Does the crank block line up with the crank nut allowing the use of the hand crank to spin the engine? __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

03-31-2014, 03:13 PM	#3
Bill Lee/Virginia Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 295	Re: How to Install Fan Belt I purchased a belt that was 1 inch longer and it fits like a glove. I do not have the belt stock number since it was several years ago. Try it. Luck. Bill Lee/Virginia Peninsula

03-31-2014, 03:38 PM	#5
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,192	Re: How to Install Fan Belt If the belt won't go around the crank pulley, jack the engine up slightly and it will slip right in. Just be sure to put a block of wood between the pan and your jack. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

03-31-2014, 03:41 PM	#7
johnbuckley Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,556	Re: How to Install Fan Belt spot on Carl

03-31-2014, 04:24 PM	#8
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: How to Install Fan Belt The above comments sounds like what I have to do also to replace my huckster belt. You may want to put something under your front motor mount to get it to sit a little higher so if you break down on the road sometime, you could replace it a little easer. Just make sure your crank will fit in pulley. __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

03-31-2014, 04:35 PM	#9
marc hildebrant Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,128	Re: How to Install Fan Belt Folks, Thanks for the comments. Currently, the crank fits very well into the engine pulley. If I raise the motor slightly, do I need to do anything with the front bolt setting ? Marc

03-31-2014, 04:58 PM	#10
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,192	Re: How to Install Fan Belt There is usually enough spring action there to lift it up the 1/8 or so needed to clear the belt. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

03-31-2014, 06:10 PM	#11
Duffy1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mo. City , Texas Posts: 725	Re: How to Install Fan Belt Depending on how close it is to going around the pulley . Mine was close so I stretched the belt using my floor jack. If it is close to going on you might want to give this a try before doing any thing else.

03-31-2014, 06:18 PM	#12
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: How to Install Fan Belt Do you maybe have some old dirt or something on your front cross member under the pulley that you could clean off also and get more clearance? __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

03-31-2014, 07:51 PM	#13
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: How to Install Fan Belt if the front castellation nut is drawn down to tight that can be the difference. the front motor mount is supposed to float on the springs..

03-31-2014, 09:17 PM	#16
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: How to Install Fan Belt I agree with Mitch!!! I only tighten the castellated nut enough to just get the cotter pin through the hole. If the nut is tightened more it will also cause vibration.

03-31-2014, 09:24 PM	#17
Bruce Adams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northport, NY Posts: 1,597	Re: How to Install Fan Belt If its CLOSE, then make a garrot from a string with a couple of loops (Bowline knots) on each end, put it through the belt and pull it to length to go over the alternator's pulley.

03-31-2014, 09:32 PM	#18
marc hildebrant Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,128	Re: How to Install Fan Belt With regard to lifting the motor with a floor jack/wood on the oil pan... Can the pan support the motor without crumbling ? Marc

03-31-2014, 09:41 PM	#19
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: How to Install Fan Belt Yes, you won't have to jack it up that much. I would also loosen the rear motor mount bolts to the engine, This will take strain off the flywheel housing.