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Tim, thanks for the offer of help. I have the bushings out and I think this bolt idea will work. But the last few days other family medical situations have stopped me from trying it. So let me try this idea and if it doesn't work, I will get back to you.
Again thanks for the offer and I will see how the bolt thing works in the next day or so.
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Run a saw down the center of a 1/4 inch dowel (wood) and make a reamer by inserting a piece of crocus cloth or your favorite wet or dry sand paper. Chuck it up in your hand drill and carefully use it to fit the shaft to the bushings. Go easy and quit reaming when the shaft turns freely but doesn't rock in the hole. In other words, check progress often, don't rush it. No special tools needed and you probably already own all the stuff to create the reamer.
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The bushing in the distributor need to be in alignment and fit good without being too tight. Any miss alignment will effect the inter-cylinder firing and point gap. This is why you are replacing the bushings/shaft in the first place. Another thing to check is how the plate fits around the collar at the center, if it too loose that will also effect the points. |
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Good idea also Daveymc29. I will give it a try after I get the bushings in the body. If for some reason I can't get the job done that way, a friend of mine has a reamer that would do the .5 reaming.
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I bought a new distributor reamer years ago ..... glad I did.
Your intimating using your friend's reamer for "assuring" that both bushings are perfectly "aligned" sounds like more of a problem free, "Do-It-Once-In-A-Lifetime" Model A distributor solution. But, again, just one humble opinion. |
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The biggest obstacle facing a successful distributor rebuild is the very good chance of cracking the housing. They generally crack around the top bushing as the metal is very thin there. If I find a housing cracked I discard it as it is no longer usable.
When removing the old bushings it is best to split them with a hack saw blade then it is an easy task to twist them out with long nose pliers. If you try to press them out, you stand a good chance of cracking the housing. During service a crud line forms between the two bushings that is made up of dried lubricant and wear particles. The crud will compact during the pressing out process and this will crack the housing. When installing new bushings I make sure the housing is thoroughly clean and both the housing tunnel and the bushings are well lubricated. I use an insertion tool and press them both in from the bottom as this will ensure the top bushing is lined up properly as it approaches the top where it is prone to crack. The bushings then need to be reamed in line to make sure both bushings are lined up correctly. If you don't own an insertion tool and a reamer you stand a good chance of cracking the housing. In this case it would be prudent to take advantage of Bratton's offer of an exchange housing for $40. It comes bead blasted, painted, new bushings installed and reamed, and a new shaft and sleeve fitted. Part number 16990. Tom Endy |
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Thanks RonC. Looks like I need to remove the shaft pin and shaft sleeve and put the fabric washer on the top. What I may have messed up on it getting the upper bushing all the way into the body and thus it keeps the shaft to high and thus has no end play.
I did have the new bushings reamed so that the shaft turned freely. But with the fabric washer on the shaft is where I had the problem of getting the shaft to turn freely and there is no end play. Well back to the old work bench to start over again. Learning is tuff and hard on new parts!
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Thanks again guys. Looks like I was to much in a hurry to get this thing put together. I now will need to get a new sleeve pin and start over. Thanks for the good ideas.
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Reaming can be done with an old dist. shaft. Just score it with a lathe bit and have at it. Split the difference it you have too and take a little off the shaft.
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Well just another update. I did get the shaft installed with some end play to the body. I did grind down the sleeve so that I would get the end play. Shaft turns well so went on to the next steps.
Put in mostly new parts. The only old parts I used were the body and the upper and lower plates. Everything else is new even the lower plate pig tail wire! What a challenge. I messed up a couple of things but with the help of you guys, finally got it finished. I have never completely rebuilt a distributor before so guess now I am an "expert" (Ha) in this area. Thanks for all of you sticking with me through this ordeal. I posted below a picture of the bolt method I used to get the bushings in and a picture of the final product. I thought I would finish up this thread so that maybe, someone else might benefit from my blundering through this project. Thanks again.
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Nice job on the rebuild Fred. The best way of learning is by doing, combined with the knowledge available both here on the Ford Barn Forum and the meny "How To" Model A Publications. Congratulations !
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The real test will be when I put it in my Coupe to see if it runs. But that ain't agona happen tilt the weather gets better. Live on a gravel road and this is rainy Oregon.
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