1932 Pedal Plates

[jim1932]

They do not come with the floor board, but Roy does sell them separately.

Pat, was the round cover also from Roy?

[Pat/Ohio]

No, the grease cup cover didn't come from Roy.....It was an original piece. The brackets were also original. Pat

[DavidG]

Jim,

We need to be a little bit careful so as to not muddy the waters any more than Ford did already. All '32 V-8s (like Pat's coupe) were originally equipped with foot-controlled starter switches. It was only the pre-July, 1932 fours that were equipped with a hand-controlled starter switch. In late June, the V-8 foot-controlled starter switch was released for all four-cylinder vehicles (along with the wiring harness modifications necessary to support the change).

Given that the majority of four-cylinder production took place before July, a significant majority of the surviving fours have hand-controlled starter switches.

Dave

[1962300]

Yes they do come with the brackets

[jim1932]

Originally Posted by 1962300

Yes they do come with the brackets

I find that it is best to call Roy and talk to him about what you need, rather than try to fax in an order. That way he can talk you through the pieces you need. Much better than getting the wrong stuff and Roy really knows his products.

[PeteVS]

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I got some pictures of my original floorboards. Interesting is the use of a BIG dado saw to cut the reliefs in the backs. Note the location of the throttle foot rest when the access cover is closed. Did this originally have stove bolts with square nuts?? Inlaid linoleum, rubber mat, fire hose and roofing nails were apparently an option for this year.

[DavidG]

Looks like a non-Ford running change made somewhere along the way. The original fasteners were #6 wood screws (there were no holes on the underside). Be sure and save those three cylindrical female mat/carpet retainers in the holes along the top of the #1 board. They are extremely difficult to find.

[jim1932]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Looks like a non-Ford running change made somewhere along the way. The original fasteners were #6 wood screws (there were no holes on the underside). Be sure and save those three cylindrical female mat/carpet retainers in the holes along the top of the #1 board. They are extremely difficult to find.

The three what? I wonder if I have them on my old floor board.

[PeteVS]

Originally Posted by jim1932

The three what? I wonder if I have them on my old floor board.

I guess that's the next question. What were the mats / carpets?? (I just told my wife to put "The Book" on my Christmas list. Maybe that will show them.)

[DavidG]

Pete,

As I recall, your sedan is a deluxe model and as such it would have carpeting front and rear.

The three retainers in your #1 floorboard are part number 353109-S15 shown below. The male portion used with carpeting is part number 353113-S15 also shown below.

For Jim's benefit, the male retainer used with a rubber mat (standard sedans) in the front compartment is part number 95522-S15 also shown below.

For both carpeting and rubber mats, four of the male studs were used. The fourth one inserts into a hole in the center of the left side of the upper pedal plate.

These fasteners are shown on pages A-11-12 and A-11-14 of the book.

[jim1932]

Originally Posted by PeteVS

I guess that's the next question. What were the mats / carpets?? (I just told my wife to put "The Book" on my Christmas list. Maybe that will show them.)

Pete,

You HAVE to have the book....It is amazingly detailed.

[DavidG]

I should have added that there are two more male fasteners used on the front floor carpet or mat. These go in the two rear corners of the carpet/mat and insert into holes in the body sills that exist for that purpose.

[jim1932]

I thought I would add my question here rather than a new thread. I think I have the assembly order correct, but are there two holes where the bolt goes through the top plate and foam, but not the floor board? Are these the same length as the others? is the foam supposed to be trimmed? or is it just left taller than the top plate?

[DavidG]

Jim,

The order is fine, but that center hole on the left side of the top plate is not for a bolt. It is for the push pin mentioned up above in this thread. You'll likely find it desirable to add at least a part-way hole in the the foam rubber to provide clearance for the shank of the push pin.

Judging from your photos, both your top and bottom plates are the early variety used before the brake pedal was shortened (from the elbow in the pedal down to the bottom of the pedal), which seems right for your car's dating. The reproduction foam rubber part is for the later style brake pedal so you will need to increase the brake pedal opening in the foam by 1/2" (upward or forward) or your pedal will really bind on the scrunched-up foam. No other trimming is required.

Dave

[jim1932]

I spent half an hour trying to get a bolt to screw into an imaginary D nut on that center hole. Did your washers screw down to be flat with the board? Mine stick up a bit. Wondering if they will work their way further in over time, or if I need more power screwing them in? I was afraid I'd strip the heads.

[DavidG]

Jim,

Don't over-tighten the screws. It could be that you have 1/4" rather than #12 cup washers. They should fit in the countersunk hole in the floorboards without any help from the screws being tightened.

Dave

[PeteVS]

The washers that were on my '32 floor boards were not like the "finish washers" you find in a hardware store. They were basically flat with a stamped "countersink" in the center. There was no contour at the outside. I'll try to make a sketch to add to this post. (I plan to buy a set of floorboard screws from Roy Nacewicz. Are his washers flat like I mention?)

[DavidG]

Pete,

Yes, they are flat. like the originals.

Dave

[PeteVS]

Dave:
Thanks. I couldn't tell from Jim's photos and the fact that he said they were sticking up, I thought they might have been wrong. For a Tudor, I guess I'll have to get two sets?
Pete

[DavidG]

Pete,

Yes, with the Tudor and Fordor having #3 and #4 floorboards. The coupes also take additional ones for the wood pieces beneath the seat tracks.

What I mentioned earlier about the difference between #12 and 1/4" cup washers is important as the post-'32 floor boards use 1/4" fasteners and the countersunk holes in those boards are larger accordingly. The difference between the two sizes of cup washers is not easy to perceive, even when they are side by side and it is totally understandable that Roy's helpers may get them mixed up when they come back from the platers in huge quantities. (I've helped Roy sort fasteners post-plating and it is real easy to mix #12 and 1/4" fasteners, especially those with black plating combined with it being late at night.) What counts is that Roy will gladly supply the correct ones if you end up with some of the wrong ones in one of his kits.

Dave