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Old 12-07-2012, 04:33 PM   #1
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I am trying to install the stainless steel crank hole cover with rivet. Not having much luck with peening the rivet. Any body have suggestions ? Thanks in advance
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:36 PM   #2
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Do you have a washer in place?
Do you have the correct tool to roll the end of the rivet?
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:03 PM   #3
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There was no washer with the new kit I do not know what the correct tool looks like. Do you happen to have apicture ? Thanks Tom for your help
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I don't have a picture but I use the same tool that is used to roll the brake shoe rivets. It's just a hand held punch with a concave ring, with a raised center and outer ring. There's a name for that shape, but I can't think of it. Anyway I put a drop of oil on the end of the tool and it puts a nice roll on the rivet. I've seen fiber washers and also lock washers used to hold friction on the front cover once the rivet is rolled over.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:15 PM   #5
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If you usa a little oil on the end to peen, it helps. Tom Wesenberg gave me that pointer some time back. A brake riveting tool works pretty well. I just installed one about 3 days ago. Make sure the rivet is not too loose or too tight. I set the rivet some and them tried to move the cover. Set it a little more and check it again until the cover moves with a little effort but not loose where it will rattle.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:40 PM   #6
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A couple of weeks ago I did a search on this sublect and found some very useful information. Radiator Shell CrankHole Cover Install. Dave Lopes is the one who had the photos.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:02 PM   #7
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A couple of weeks ago I did a search on this sublect and found some very useful information. Radiator Shell CrankHole Cover Install. Dave Lopes is the one who had the photos.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18850
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:44 AM   #8
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A brake kick riveter is the ticket. The riveting stand you use with your foot. You set the gap about right and have someone hold while you carefully kick the rivet set. I did that for the rivets on my hood, worked like a charm.

Hand setting with a hammer can work, but the control from a kick riveter feel safer.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:21 PM   #9
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Use a pop rivet, then fill in rivet hole with solder. Easy & looks good.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:09 PM   #10
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OK I did the job today. I used the new cover with rivet and lock washer. Put a flat washer on back and used my kick riverter to finish the job. Thanks again for all the fast replies
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:16 PM   #11
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OK I did the job today. I used the new cover with rivet and lock washer. Put a flat washer on back and used my kick riverter to finish the job. Thanks again for all the fast replies
Bill what brand of kick riveter do you own? It sounds like something I should obtain if one shows up someday.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:26 PM   #12
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There are many types of kick riveters.

The important part is that they have the correct die and anvil to properly upset the type of rivet you are using. Look at the upper an lower part and be sure there is something in there and look at the size of the dimple in the middle of the upset die. Some riveters will handle car and larger truck rivets and may have a little carrier on the side.

The prices have a wide range at the flea markets from $20 up to $300. At all price levels you can find good ones with the right tooling and bad ones missing the tooling. Finding the missing parts can be tricky. Quite frankly, if you go to enough flea markets you should be able to find a nice one for under $50.

BTW, they make putting linings on much easier then the hammer method.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:09 AM   #13
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