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eeyore · 10-15-2012, 10:33 AM

I am trying to fit the car together and I am having a problem with the clearance between the front floor pan and the frame, it is a new brooksville subframe and floor pan and with the wood blocks in place the edges of the floor pan rest on top of the frame which is straight . If it needs shims what type of space do I want between the floor and frame? Thanks Dale

d.j. moordigian · 10-15-2012, 10:48 AM

Dale,
I assume you're talking about the pan under the front seat riser? Are you dropping
it in from the top? Photos?
Dudley

eeyore · 10-15-2012, 11:07 AM

Yes I will take a few photos tonight which may help here thanks

eeyore · 10-15-2012, 12:58 PM

does this help?

d.j. moordigian · 10-16-2012, 10:03 AM

My pan measures about .550"-.575"...top to bottom. My car is dismantled and not
on the frame.

Silly question,..is the body centered?

Here is a thread on the rubber pads.........28/29 front body block pads......

Let me know..

eeyore · 10-16-2012, 04:23 PM

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Thank You for the reply, here are some more photos I hope showing what I am questioning and unsure even if I have a problem or not, thanks I did look at the link and the rubber may take up some gap but if everything was bolted tight even including the splash pans the bottom of the floor pan would be tight to the top of the frame. I would think I would need maybe another 1/2" shimming to have some room between the body and frame then will that make my hood, cowl, radiator off up front?

ericr · 10-16-2012, 05:41 PM

I might be misunderstanding the problem....your question seems to be that the body blocks do not elevate the body on its subrails high enough to clear the center crossmember? are your body blocks the correct size?

d.j. moordigian · 10-16-2012, 06:33 PM

Is you pan a repop? My pan is an original, the figure I gave you is total height, not
depth. Looks like the pan is already riveted in?

Don't forget the frame welt....ya I know it's only.062"..(1/16") + the shields+ the
rubber pads and the blocks.

Put the welting on the frame with the blocks and rubber pads(maybe the shields also),
then see were are you? I'm with you on the radiator, hood, cowl..

Whadaya think..

*ericr..I checked my blocks against eeyore #6 photo. They look close, I used calipers.*

eeyore · 10-16-2012, 07:08 PM

The subframe and floor pan are from brooksville and put together by them, I am questioning how much space is normal between the frame and let's say the bottom of the floor pan on a 29 roadster? If the floor sits on the top of the frame ok but I am trying to do the best I can and learn when I need to ask a question when something doesn't seem to fit right. Thanks for the ideas so for. Dale

d.j. moordigian · 10-16-2012, 07:40 PM

Dale,
I don't know how much space there is...but I do know the the pan doesn't touch
or rest on the frame, as in photo #1. To simulate, fit and adjust, I still think you need
the rest of the parts(rubber & welt and maybe the shields) to fit the body to the frame.

10-15-2012, 10:48 AM	#2
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? Dale, I assume you're talking about the pan under the front seat riser? Are you dropping it in from the top? Photos? Dudley

10-15-2012, 11:07 AM	#3
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? Yes I will take a few photos tonight which may help here thanks

10-16-2012, 10:03 AM	#5
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? My pan measures about .550"-.575"...top to bottom. My car is dismantled and not on the frame. Silly question,..is the body centered? Here is a thread on the rubber pads.........28/29 front body block pads...... Let me know..

10-16-2012, 05:41 PM	#7
ericr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,542	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? I might be misunderstanding the problem....your question seems to be that the body blocks do not elevate the body on its subrails high enough to clear the center crossmember? are your body blocks the correct size?

10-16-2012, 06:33 PM	#8
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? Is you pan a repop? My pan is an original, the figure I gave you is total height, not depth. Looks like the pan is already riveted in? Don't forget the frame welt....ya I know it's only.062"..(1/16") + the shields+ the rubber pads and the blocks. Put the welting on the frame with the blocks and rubber pads(maybe the shields also), then see were are you? I'm with you on the radiator, hood, cowl.. Whadaya think.. ericr..I checked my blocks against eeyore #6 photo. They look close, I used calipers.

10-15-2012, 10:33 AM	#1
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	29 roadster floor pan? I am trying to fit the car together and I am having a problem with the clearance between the front floor pan and the frame, it is a new brooksville subframe and floor pan and with the wood blocks in place the edges of the floor pan rest on top of the frame which is straight . If it needs shims what type of space do I want between the floor and frame? Thanks Dale

10-16-2012, 07:08 PM	#9
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? The subframe and floor pan are from brooksville and put together by them, I am questioning how much space is normal between the frame and let's say the bottom of the floor pan on a 29 roadster? If the floor sits on the top of the frame ok but I am trying to do the best I can and learn when I need to ask a question when something doesn't seem to fit right. Thanks for the ideas so for. Dale

10-16-2012, 07:40 PM	#10
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: 29 roadster floor pan? Dale, I don't know how much space there is...but I do know the the pan doesn't touch or rest on the frame, as in photo #1. To simulate, fit and adjust, I still think you need the rest of the parts(rubber & welt and maybe the shields) to fit the body to the frame.