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JonCT · 07-02-2012, 08:09 AM

I am currently working on a 1930 Closed Cab pickup. The cab started off as an AA cab that my father had re-done 35 years ago. I have since bought a "pickup" engine & chassis from a guy that was restoring a pickup but lost interest. I mounted the cab and it is about 3/4" to an 1" too far forward. The hood does not fit and the accelerator hits the firewall. Does anyone know the proper mounting position for a pickup cab? Is it possible the frame is from a car and the mounting holes are slightly different? Any help would be appreciated.

Jon

Keith True · 07-02-2012, 08:49 AM

They are the same.If you are trying to line up the two bolts at the bottom of the door post with the two holes in the bracket on the frame the cab will be in the wrong place.Only one of those bolts actually goes through the bracket on some,and the other hole just uses a carriage bolt just through the wood body block.Start at the single bolt at the front,at the foot of the firewall.I think you'll be fine.

JonCT · 07-02-2012, 11:00 AM

Thank you, I will start there. I put the cab on a couple years ago and I don't remember exactly what I did but I know I re drilled some holes to get the body blocks to mount up. Anybody have a photo of the correct mounting?

Jon

Roger V · 07-02-2012, 07:36 PM

Re: Bolting Pickup Cab to Frame
2nd addition,The ford model A,A Color,Upholstery and production Facts Book by George De Angelis,Edward P Francis,Leslie R. Henry, Page 31
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www.whidbeymodelaclub.com

The book that Gary WA refers to above is "The Model A Ford as Henry Built It" which is available at many Model A parts suppliers. The chart within states which hole in the frame is used and the fastener size for all body styles. Lots of other info too. Has been referred to as the "brown bible" over the years.

Keith True · 07-02-2012, 09:16 PM

You shouldn't have to drill anything.There are some rear body mounts in different place on the later frames,but they are towards the rear and the changes don't apply to the pickups.

Gary WA · 07-02-2012, 10:28 PM

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Steve Plucker · 07-02-2012, 10:37 PM

First of all do you have a early 1930 (28-29 style) cab or the later 1930 style cab?

Second...The reason you may not be lining up, up front is because the front body mounting brackets, the ones with two holes in them, were moved sometime and this may be your problem in that the frame you have is not set up for your body style.

Go to my website and review the frame article I did for MAFCA a few years ago...this may answer your questions.

Pluck

JonCT · 07-03-2012, 06:47 AM

It is a 30-31 Cab. Thank you for all the information. I will take some photos of my situation.

Jon

1931 flamingo · 07-03-2012, 08:20 AM

JonCT: where are you located??
Paul in CT

JonCT · 07-03-2012, 08:39 AM

Paul I am in Lebanon.

juke joint johnny · 07-03-2012, 08:39 AM

Keith is right!! thats the way mine is

only one hole on the frame bracket lines up by the door post,

sounds like you need to push your cab back 2" then it will be Ok
John Cochran

700rpm · 07-03-2012, 11:35 AM

Lebanon? Like, the Middle East? Or Lebanon, Oregon? Or...?

JonCT · 07-11-2012, 11:23 AM

Lebanon, CT - Sorry I have been away for the last couple days I will get a photo soon.

07-02-2012, 08:09 AM	#1
JonCT Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5	1930 CC Pickup Help I am currently working on a 1930 Closed Cab pickup. The cab started off as an AA cab that my father had re-done 35 years ago. I have since bought a "pickup" engine & chassis from a guy that was restoring a pickup but lost interest. I mounted the cab and it is about 3/4" to an 1" too far forward. The hood does not fit and the accelerator hits the firewall. Does anyone know the proper mounting position for a pickup cab? Is it possible the frame is from a car and the mounting holes are slightly different? Any help would be appreciated. Jon

07-02-2012, 08:49 AM	#2
Keith True Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Epping N.H. Posts: 3,423	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help They are the same.If you are trying to line up the two bolts at the bottom of the door post with the two holes in the bracket on the frame the cab will be in the wrong place.Only one of those bolts actually goes through the bracket on some,and the other hole just uses a carriage bolt just through the wood body block.Start at the single bolt at the front,at the foot of the firewall.I think you'll be fine.

07-02-2012, 11:00 AM	#3
JonCT Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help Thank you, I will start there. I put the cab on a couple years ago and I don't remember exactly what I did but I know I re drilled some holes to get the body blocks to mount up. Anybody have a photo of the correct mounting? Jon

07-02-2012, 07:36 PM	#4
Roger V Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,593	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help Re: Bolting Pickup Cab to Frame 2nd addition,The ford model A,A Color,Upholstery and production Facts Book by George De Angelis,Edward P Francis,Leslie R. Henry, Page 31 __________________ www.whidbeymodelaclub.com The book that Gary WA refers to above is "The Model A Ford as Henry Built It" which is available at many Model A parts suppliers. The chart within states which hole in the frame is used and the fastener size for all body styles. Lots of other info too. Has been referred to as the "brown bible" over the years. Last edited by Roger V; 07-02-2012 at 08:03 PM.

07-02-2012, 09:16 PM	#5
Keith True Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Epping N.H. Posts: 3,423	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help You shouldn't have to drill anything.There are some rear body mounts in different place on the later frames,but they are towards the rear and the changes don't apply to the pickups.

07-02-2012, 10:37 PM	#7
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help First of all do you have a early 1930 (28-29 style) cab or the later 1930 style cab? Second...The reason you may not be lining up, up front is because the front body mounting brackets, the ones with two holes in them, were moved sometime and this may be your problem in that the frame you have is not set up for your body style. Go to my website and review the frame article I did for MAFCA a few years ago...this may answer your questions. Pluck

07-03-2012, 06:47 AM	#8
JonCT Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help It is a 30-31 Cab. Thank you for all the information. I will take some photos of my situation. Jon

07-03-2012, 08:20 AM	#9
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,428	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help JonCT: where are you located?? Paul in CT

07-03-2012, 08:39 AM	#10
JonCT Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help Paul I am in Lebanon.

07-03-2012, 08:39 AM	#11
juke joint johnny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London England Posts: 908	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help Keith is right!! thats the way mine is only one hole on the frame bracket lines up by the door post, sounds like you need to push your cab back 2" then it will be Ok John Cochran

07-03-2012, 11:35 AM	#12
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help Lebanon? Like, the Middle East? Or Lebanon, Oregon? Or...? __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

07-11-2012, 11:23 AM	#13
JonCT Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 1930 CC Pickup Help Lebanon, CT - Sorry I have been away for the last couple days I will get a photo soon.