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Henry/Kokomo · 01-02-2013, 08:58 AM

I acquired a '50 Mercury oil pan with the windage tray for my 8ba engine. Since it was a bit rough and very dirty, I took it to a friend's shop and he ran it through his "shake and bake" cleaner. Burned off all the oil and crud and thoroughly cleaned the pan inside and out. After the cleaning, I had to leave the project for a couple of weeks. The pan was left in a heated garage but it developed surface rust on all surfaces. Anybody have any suggestions for removing the surface rust from UNDER the windage tray? Will the products that chemically convert rust to a black coating work on the inside of an oil pan? Any suggestions appreciated.

Scott H in Wheaton · 01-02-2013, 09:09 AM

Soak it in plain white vinegar. No chemicals to worry about.

texas webb · 01-02-2013, 09:16 AM

Works.Rinse and light oil so it does not flash again.

Henry/Kokomo · 01-02-2013, 07:16 PM

Thanks, guys. It seems I overlooked the obvious. I appreciate the help.

Walt Dupont--Me. · 01-02-2013, 08:09 PM

Did you remove the aluminum dip stick thingy that is riveted to the side of the pan before the bakeing oven? If you didn'nt it isn'r there anymore. Walt

Marcus · 01-02-2013, 08:11 PM

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Henry - One more tip: DRY the pan with compressed air after soaking, THEN a light oil coating to prevent flashing - seems obvious, but don't ask how I know better......NOW! HUGE GRIN!!

Henry/Kokomo · 01-02-2013, 08:14 PM

Walt - Yes I did! I didn't think it would fair too well being heated to 400+* and then having steel shot thrown at it. I cleaned it up in the bead blast cabinet. The internal threads are worn but they're still in place. Thanks for the note.

Andy · 01-02-2013, 08:15 PM

I like to put Ospho on raw steel. It really protects it.
Do you need the oil pump and pick up that has the rest ofthe windage tray package?

Henry/Kokomo · 01-02-2013, 08:16 PM

Marcus - It's very easy to overlook the seemingly obvious - at least for me. Thanks for the reminder!

Henry/Kokomo · 01-02-2013, 08:18 PM

Andy - Is Ospho a phosphatizing agent? Not familiar with the product. Who has it for sale? Thanks for the information.

Ronnie · 01-02-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry/Kokomo

Walt - Yes I did! I didn't think it would fair too well being heated to 400+* and then having steel shot thrown at it. I cleaned it up in the bead blast cabinet. The internal threads are worn but they're still in place. Thanks for the note.

http://virtualindian.org/2techclean.htm

http://www.eci.aero/pdf/09-2.pdf

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Henry/Kokomo · 01-02-2013, 09:10 PM

Ronnie - Pretty serious stuff in the links you posted. Since the dipstick tube base hasn't been re-attached to the pan AND the threads are worn, I think a total replacement is in order. Many thanks.

BillM · 01-02-2013, 09:11 PM

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Is Ospho a phosphatizing agent? Not familiar with the product. Who has it for sale? Thanks for the information.

See : http://www.ospho.com/

Chris Nelson · 01-03-2013, 12:13 PM

Henry;
You can get Ospho from any paint store or hardware store.

Henry/Kokomo · 01-03-2013, 12:33 PM

BillM and Chris - many thanks for the info. Looks like an interesting product . . . which I intend to try. Thanks again!

01-02-2013, 08:58 AM	#1
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Oil Pan Trouble I acquired a '50 Mercury oil pan with the windage tray for my 8ba engine. Since it was a bit rough and very dirty, I took it to a friend's shop and he ran it through his "shake and bake" cleaner. Burned off all the oil and crud and thoroughly cleaned the pan inside and out. After the cleaning, I had to leave the project for a couple of weeks. The pan was left in a heated garage but it developed surface rust on all surfaces. Anybody have any suggestions for removing the surface rust from UNDER the windage tray? Will the products that chemically convert rust to a black coating work on the inside of an oil pan? Any suggestions appreciated.

01-02-2013, 09:09 AM	#2
Scott H in Wheaton Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Wheaton, IL near Chicago Posts: 861	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Soak it in plain white vinegar. No chemicals to worry about.

01-02-2013, 09:16 AM	#3
texas webb Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 637	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Works.Rinse and light oil so it does not flash again.

01-02-2013, 07:16 PM	#4
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Thanks, guys. It seems I overlooked the obvious. I appreciate the help.

01-02-2013, 08:09 PM	#5
Walt Dupont--Me. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gardiner Me. Posts: 4,200	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Did you remove the aluminum dip stick thingy that is riveted to the side of the pan before the bakeing oven? If you didn'nt it isn'r there anymore. Walt

01-02-2013, 08:11 PM	#6
Marcus Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walnut Grove, Mississippi Posts: 609	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Henry - One more tip: DRY the pan with compressed air after soaking, THEN a light oil coating to prevent flashing - seems obvious, but don't ask how I know better......NOW! HUGE GRIN!! __________________ WARM REGARDS, MARCUS

01-02-2013, 08:14 PM	#7
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Walt - Yes I did! I didn't think it would fair too well being heated to 400+* and then having steel shot thrown at it. I cleaned it up in the bead blast cabinet. The internal threads are worn but they're still in place. Thanks for the note.

01-02-2013, 08:15 PM	#8
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,879	Re: Oil Pan Trouble I like to put Ospho on raw steel. It really protects it. Do you need the oil pump and pick up that has the rest ofthe windage tray package?

01-02-2013, 08:16 PM	#9
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Marcus - It's very easy to overlook the seemingly obvious - at least for me. Thanks for the reminder!

01-02-2013, 08:18 PM	#10
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Andy - Is Ospho a phosphatizing agent? Not familiar with the product. Who has it for sale? Thanks for the information.

01-02-2013, 09:10 PM	#12
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Ronnie - Pretty serious stuff in the links you posted. Since the dipstick tube base hasn't been re-attached to the pan AND the threads are worn, I think a total replacement is in order. Many thanks.

01-03-2013, 12:13 PM	#14
Chris Nelson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Poulsbo, WA. Posts: 356	Re: Oil Pan Trouble Henry; You can get Ospho from any paint store or hardware store.

01-03-2013, 12:33 PM	#15
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Oil Pan Trouble BillM and Chris - many thanks for the info. Looks like an interesting product . . . which I intend to try. Thanks again!