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elwood · 03-13-2025, 09:45 PM

Hey guys, I need to know how to get this ignition switch and drop off the column with out hurting anything.
Id like to have the switch re keyed to.
The off / on lever isnt stuck, but the lock lever is engaged.
Thanks ..

JayJay · 03-13-2025, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwood

Hey guys, I need to know how to get this ignition switch and drop off the column with out hurting anything.
Id like to have the switch re keyed to.
The off / on lever isnt stuck, but the lock lever is engaged.
Thanks ..

Elwood - looks to me that the way to get the casting (the drop with the switch and ignition lock) off would be to:

Remove the horn rod
Remove the steering wheel
Remove the spark and throttle levers
Remove the notch plate from the top of the steering column housing
Remove the pinch bolt from the casting
Spread the casting carefully with a screwdriver or similar, and pull the casting carefully off the top of the steering column housing

You'll need to replace the drop with a standard one if you don't reuse the special one with the switches.

elwood · 03-13-2025, 10:37 PM

Thanks Jay Jay, Ive got the wheel off and the tube lose from the box, but the lock pin is holding the tube to the shaft.
How can I get the switch/Key part off so I can release the lock pin ?
I want to send the switch off to get re keyed.

mcgarrett · 03-13-2025, 10:38 PM

This column looks to be for a Ford product made during the flathead V8 years. You can get it apart successfully without damage, but it will take some finesse and skill. I would recommend posting this on the Early V8 Forum and get good, experienced advice from some of those guys. I've done one of these, but it has been too long ago.

Kurt in NJ · 03-14-2025, 06:45 AM

the pin underneath that holds the tumbler in has to be removed,I usually drill and tap for a small screw and pull it out.
The tumbler should have a letter/number code on it that a key can be made from and with the tumbler out a screwdriver can be used to move the locking pin away from the steering shaft.

elwood · 03-14-2025, 08:32 AM

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Hey Kurt, what pin are you talking about ?
Do you see it in the pictures ?
Tks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt in NJ

the pin underneath that holds the tumbler in has to be removed,I usually drill and tap for a small screw and pull it out.
The tumbler should have a letter/number code on it that a key can be made from and with the tumbler out a screwdriver can be used to move the locking pin away from the steering shaft.

elwood · 03-14-2025, 08:34 AM

Tks for the reply mcgarrett, this is from a 1930 Model AA Truck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgarrett

This column looks to be for a Ford product made during the flathead V8 years. You can get it apart successfully without damage, but it will take some finesse and skill. I would recommend posting this on the Early V8 Forum and get good, experienced advice from some of those guys. I've done one of these, but it has been too long ago.

deuce5wndw · 03-14-2025, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwood

Hey Kurt, what pin are you talking about ?
Do you see it in the pictures ?
Tks

The pin is shown in the photo, it is directly under the tumbler. As Kurt said I drill and tap it then use a small slide hammer to pull it out.

Kurt in NJ · 03-14-2025, 10:11 AM

It’s not a part for the model AA, it’s from later Ford, perhaps a BB

elwood · 03-14-2025, 10:44 AM

I took it from a 30 Model AA, big truck. Took it out myself

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt in NJ

It’s not a part for the model AA, it’s from later Ford, perhaps a BB

Kurt in NJ · 03-14-2025, 10:49 AM

those kind of steering locks were not used on A or AA , after 32 steering locks were installed

Oldbluoval · 03-14-2025, 11:05 AM

“I took it from a 30 Model AA, big truck. Took it out myself”

In 95 years something might have been changed? Maybe somebody did something years ago….just saying. Can’t begin to tell you modifications I’ve found

katy · 03-14-2025, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwood

Tks for the reply mcgarrett, this is from a 1930 Model AA Truck.

You may have removed it from a 1930 Model AA truck, but it's not original, some OP has put it in there.

Bob C · 03-14-2025, 11:31 AM

This link may help. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...=Steering+lock

Seth Swoboda · 03-14-2025, 11:51 AM

It's not a Model A column drop as the others have said. It's definitely early V8.

v8fordman · 03-14-2025, 06:33 PM

I believe it is from a ‘35 or ‘36 truck. Those two are different, but I don’t have the angle I need to be sure. Based on the lock cylinder style, my guess is that it is a ‘36 especially since it is “ON” when down.

03-13-2025, 10:37 PM	#3
elwood Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,092	Re: How to get this apart Thanks Jay Jay, Ive got the wheel off and the tube lose from the box, but the lock pin is holding the tube to the shaft. How can I get the switch/Key part off so I can release the lock pin ? I want to send the switch off to get re keyed.

03-13-2025, 10:38 PM	#4
mcgarrett Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Corsicana, Texas Posts: 1,306	Re: How to get this apart This column looks to be for a Ford product made during the flathead V8 years. You can get it apart successfully without damage, but it will take some finesse and skill. I would recommend posting this on the Early V8 Forum and get good, experienced advice from some of those guys. I've done one of these, but it has been too long ago.

03-14-2025, 06:45 AM	#5
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,555	Re: How to get this apart the pin underneath that holds the tumbler in has to be removed,I usually drill and tap for a small screw and pull it out. The tumbler should have a letter/number code on it that a key can be made from and with the tumbler out a screwdriver can be used to move the locking pin away from the steering shaft.

03-14-2025, 10:11 AM	#9
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,555	Re: How to get this apart It’s not a part for the model AA, it’s from later Ford, perhaps a BB

03-14-2025, 10:49 AM	#11
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,555	Re: How to get this apart those kind of steering locks were not used on A or AA , after 32 steering locks were installed

03-14-2025, 11:05 AM	#12
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,591	Re: How to get this apart “I took it from a 30 Model AA, big truck. Took it out myself” In 95 years something might have been changed? Maybe somebody did something years ago….just saying. Can’t begin to tell you modifications I’ve found

03-14-2025, 11:31 AM	#14
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,359	Re: How to get this apart This link may help. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...=Steering+lock

03-14-2025, 11:51 AM	#15
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 4,079	Re: How to get this apart It's not a Model A column drop as the others have said. It's definitely early V8.

03-14-2025, 06:33 PM	#16
v8fordman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 1,016	Re: How to get this apart I believe it is from a ‘35 or ‘36 truck. Those two are different, but I don’t have the angle I need to be sure. Based on the lock cylinder style, my guess is that it is a ‘36 especially since it is “ON” when down.