The Ford Barn

Dave Mellor NJ · 10-22-2024, 12:00 AM

getting delivered

David in San Antonio · 10-23-2024, 10:47 PM

Dave, I love seeing these old photos. Thank you.

mercman from oz · 10-23-2024, 11:12 PM

Model A Ford getting delivered by rail in India - Dave

Dave Mellor NJ · 10-23-2024, 11:47 PM

Thanks for expanding the pic, Mercman. I've been getting some pics coming through with black top and bottoms. I don't know why

nkaminar · 10-24-2024, 07:04 AM

Photo must be backwards. The steering wheel is on the wrong side.

gdmn852 · 10-24-2024, 08:28 AM

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Hello, I think that former British colonies inherited drive on right side of road , US drives on left supposedly because of all the Model T that were built that way!

gdmn852 · 10-24-2024, 08:31 AM

Hello again, sorry I think I got that backwards!

nkaminar · 10-24-2024, 12:18 PM

Before the Model T, and including cars made by Ford, the steering wheel was on the right (starboard) side of the car. People in the US always drove on the right side of the road, even with horse drawn wagons. For the Model T, Ford move the steering wheel to the left (port) side of the car. The rest is history.

Quiz for the day: Can anyone tell me why Ford move the steering wheel to the left? Answer at 11:00.

5851a · 10-24-2024, 03:37 PM

Easier to pass?

47topless · 10-24-2024, 06:23 PM

Most people are right-handed and better use of the right hand is for shifting,etc rather than steering.

Dave Mellor NJ · 10-24-2024, 11:43 PM

They say driving on the left started with jousting

Synchro909 · 10-24-2024, 11:56 PM

Henry put the driver on the left so his weight would counter the rotation induced by the torque of the engine.

David in San Antonio · 10-25-2024, 01:31 PM

My guess is related to the fact that the early Model Ts had no driver-side door, supposedly because Henry didn’t want drivers stepping into the street, believing that the curb side was safer. Putting the wheel on the left allowed the passenger to enter without having to climb over the driver. This is a pure guess, not based on any documentary evidence and without research. It may be that the single door simplified the production process, allowing cars to be built more quickly and at a lower cost.
Henry later added the driver-side door to the T. Some may say it was to try to modernize Lizzy as sales and market share slumped. Others may say it was because he was so fed up with stupid consumers and their stupid “preferences” that he wanted the most foolish of them to step out into traffic. Hard to say.
P.S. Synchro - So when the wheel was moved to the starboard side was the engine rotation, along with the starter, oil pump, generator, and distributor reworked to rotate the other way?If so, it’s no wonder Australian parts are so hard to find.

fried okra · 10-25-2024, 07:34 PM

Wonder if they needed any training on double clutching?

Brad in Germany · 10-25-2024, 07:35 PM

Ford Model A's that were sold in India were right hand drive.

Here is another example of a Ford Model A in India:

Brad in Maryland

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Bruce of MN · 10-26-2024, 03:37 AM

One of our club members has a LHD Phaeton that was in next door Nepal.

1957monarchtpc · 10-26-2024, 02:33 PM

I really think �� it was the Model T TORQUE, myself! ��

Model "A" Fords · 10-27-2024, 09:09 AM

Dave, I always enjoy seeing these old photographs. Thanks for posting!

These Model "A" cars from India were made in Canada. National Steel Car in Hamilton Ontario Canada made the chassis stamped for both left and right hand drive allowing only one chassis for either hand.

National Steel Car, known for making rail cars also stamped chassis for many of other automobile manufacturers.

10-23-2024, 10:47 PM	#2
David in San Antonio Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 545	Re: India Phaeton Dave, I love seeing these old photos. Thank you. __________________ David in San Antonio Late ‘30 Deluxe "Wretched Roadster" Alamo A’s Club

10-23-2024, 11:12 PM	#3
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 12,013	Re: India Phaeton Model A Ford getting delivered by rail in India - Dave

10-23-2024, 11:47 PM	#4
Dave Mellor NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,468	Re: India Phaeton Thanks for expanding the pic, Mercman. I've been getting some pics coming through with black top and bottoms. I don't know why

10-24-2024, 07:04 AM	#5
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,863	Re: India Phaeton Photo must be backwards. The steering wheel is on the wrong side. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

10-24-2024, 08:28 AM	#6
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 962	Re: India Phaeton Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hello, I think that former British colonies inherited drive on right side of road , US drives on left supposedly because of all the Model T that were built that way!

10-24-2024, 08:31 AM	#7
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 962	Re: India Phaeton Hello again, sorry I think I got that backwards!

10-24-2024, 12:18 PM	#8
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,863	Re: India Phaeton Before the Model T, and including cars made by Ford, the steering wheel was on the right (starboard) side of the car. People in the US always drove on the right side of the road, even with horse drawn wagons. For the Model T, Ford move the steering wheel to the left (port) side of the car. The rest is history. Quiz for the day: Can anyone tell me why Ford move the steering wheel to the left? Answer at 11:00. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

10-24-2024, 03:37 PM	#9
5851a Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: NE Iowa Posts: 1,767	Re: India Phaeton Easier to pass?

10-24-2024, 06:23 PM	#10
47topless Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 463	Re: India Phaeton Most people are right-handed and better use of the right hand is for shifting,etc rather than steering.

10-24-2024, 11:43 PM	#11
Dave Mellor NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,468	Re: India Phaeton They say driving on the left started with jousting

10-24-2024, 11:56 PM	#12
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8,044	Re: India Phaeton Henry put the driver on the left so his weight would counter the rotation induced by the torque of the engine. __________________ I sometimes wonder what happened to the people who asked me for directions. Even at my age, I still like to look at a young, attractive woman but I can't really remember why.

10-25-2024, 01:31 PM	#13
David in San Antonio Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 545	Re: India Phaeton My guess is related to the fact that the early Model Ts had no driver-side door, supposedly because Henry didn’t want drivers stepping into the street, believing that the curb side was safer. Putting the wheel on the left allowed the passenger to enter without having to climb over the driver. This is a pure guess, not based on any documentary evidence and without research. It may be that the single door simplified the production process, allowing cars to be built more quickly and at a lower cost. Henry later added the driver-side door to the T. Some may say it was to try to modernize Lizzy as sales and market share slumped. Others may say it was because he was so fed up with stupid consumers and their stupid “preferences” that he wanted the most foolish of them to step out into traffic. Hard to say. P.S. Synchro - So when the wheel was moved to the starboard side was the engine rotation, along with the starter, oil pump, generator, and distributor reworked to rotate the other way?If so, it’s no wonder Australian parts are so hard to find. __________________ David in San Antonio Late ‘30 Deluxe "Wretched Roadster" Alamo A’s Club Last edited by David in San Antonio; 10-25-2024 at 01:36 PM. Reason: Thought of another stupid thing to write.

10-25-2024, 07:34 PM	#14
fried okra Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Daniel Island,SouthCarolina/Knoxville, Tennessee/Sanibel Island,Florida Posts: 354	Re: India Phaeton Wonder if they needed any training on double clutching?

10-26-2024, 03:37 AM	#16
Bruce of MN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: VA Posts: 1,808	Re: India Phaeton One of our club members has a LHD Phaeton that was in next door Nepal.

10-26-2024, 02:33 PM	#17
1957monarchtpc Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 18	Re: India Phaeton I really think �� it was the Model T TORQUE, myself! ��

10-27-2024, 09:09 AM	#18
Model "A" Fords Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 286	Re: India Phaeton Dave, I always enjoy seeing these old photographs. Thanks for posting! These Model "A" cars from India were made in Canada. National Steel Car in Hamilton Ontario Canada made the chassis stamped for both left and right hand drive allowing only one chassis for either hand. National Steel Car, known for making rail cars also stamped chassis for many of other automobile manufacturers.