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36cabrioletfrank · 09-18-2018, 12:47 PM

The shaft that both my brake and clutch shaft runs on is worn and wobbles when I depress either pedal. I'm running 39 juice brakes. Any insight on rebuilding this? Are parts available, pedals, shaft ,bushings etc. Are worn out bushings a common cause of this, or is it typical that all parts of this assembly need to be replaced?

Could a worn shaft cause the brake pedal to not completely retract resulting in a brake groan when coming to acomplete stop?

JSeery · 09-18-2018, 01:57 PM

I would start with Southside Obsolete, barnfind08 here on the Barn. https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthrea...ght=barnfind08

supereal · 09-18-2018, 02:30 PM

The shaft and pedal bushing are available from C&G (800/266-0470). Since Your car was converted to Hydraulic, it is important to know the dimensions of the shaft. The shaft runs about $25, the bushings, about $5 each. It is usual for the grease fittings on the pedal assembly be skipped when the rest of the chassis is lubed. When I found my '47, the shaft was so badly worn the previous owner had fastened a piece of rubber to the floorboard to prevent the pedals from scratching! Always replace the shaft and bushing together.

drolston · 09-18-2018, 06:32 PM

Unless the bushings wore completely out and you have steel on steel between the pedal and shaft, you will probably only need bushings. There is a trick to removing the snap rings that hold the pedals onto the shaft. Search this site. Also, the clutch pedal is relatively easily removed from the assembly installed in the car. Brake pedal, not so much, unless the whole pedal bracket assembly is removed, or the transmission is out of the car. That is a problem on a column shift; might not be a clearance problem on the '39 floor shift.

The bronze bushings are a little delicate. Clean up the hole through the pedal, use some thin lube, and you should be able to tap them ever so gently into place with a light mallet. I ran a folded sheet of 600 paper through the crack in the bushing a few times to loosen it up a bit.

deuce lover · 09-19-2018, 04:46 AM

Do you have a 36 pedal assy or 39 pedal assy? The assy's and bushings are different.

JM 35 Sedan · 09-19-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover

Do you have a 36 pedal assy or 39 pedal assy? The assy's and bushings are different.

Good point Sheldon, you can have 39 hydraulic brakes, but not necessarily use a 39 brake/clutch pedal assembly. Frank needs to confirm which brake/clutch pedal assembly he actually has before trying to find parts.

36cabrioletfrank · 10-05-2023, 12:27 PM

Thanks for the help and advice. A good craftsman friend made me a new shaft that I installed along with a set of new bushings. Big thanks to Donno. Problem solved.

Seth Swoboda · 10-05-2023, 02:34 PM

Thanks for the follow up but I hope that project didn't take 4 years.

09-18-2018, 12:47 PM	#1
36cabrioletfrank Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 11	Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes The shaft that both my brake and clutch shaft runs on is worn and wobbles when I depress either pedal. I'm running 39 juice brakes. Any insight on rebuilding this? Are parts available, pedals, shaft ,bushings etc. Are worn out bushings a common cause of this, or is it typical that all parts of this assembly need to be replaced? Could a worn shaft cause the brake pedal to not completely retract resulting in a brake groan when coming to acomplete stop?

09-18-2018, 01:57 PM	#2
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes I would start with Southside Obsolete, barnfind08 here on the Barn. https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthrea...ght=barnfind08 Last edited by JSeery; 09-18-2018 at 02:05 PM.

09-18-2018, 02:30 PM	#3
supereal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Re: Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes The shaft and pedal bushing are available from C&G (800/266-0470). Since Your car was converted to Hydraulic, it is important to know the dimensions of the shaft. The shaft runs about $25, the bushings, about $5 each. It is usual for the grease fittings on the pedal assembly be skipped when the rest of the chassis is lubed. When I found my '47, the shaft was so badly worn the previous owner had fastened a piece of rubber to the floorboard to prevent the pedals from scratching! Always replace the shaft and bushing together.

09-18-2018, 06:32 PM	#4
drolston Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,811	Re: Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes Unless the bushings wore completely out and you have steel on steel between the pedal and shaft, you will probably only need bushings. There is a trick to removing the snap rings that hold the pedals onto the shaft. Search this site. Also, the clutch pedal is relatively easily removed from the assembly installed in the car. Brake pedal, not so much, unless the whole pedal bracket assembly is removed, or the transmission is out of the car. That is a problem on a column shift; might not be a clearance problem on the '39 floor shift. The bronze bushings are a little delicate. Clean up the hole through the pedal, use some thin lube, and you should be able to tap them ever so gently into place with a light mallet. I ran a folded sheet of 600 paper through the crack in the bushing a few times to loosen it up a bit.

09-19-2018, 04:46 AM	#5
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,837	Re: Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes Do you have a 36 pedal assy or 39 pedal assy? The assy's and bushings are different.

10-05-2023, 12:27 PM	#7
36cabrioletfrank Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 11	Re: Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes Thanks for the help and advice. A good craftsman friend made me a new shaft that I installed along with a set of new bushings. Big thanks to Donno. Problem solved.

10-05-2023, 02:34 PM	#8
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 4,079	Re: Clutch and brake shaft worn 36 with 39 juice brakes Thanks for the follow up but I hope that project didn't take 4 years.