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Hello guys, I have a set of Jahns pistons and printed on the end of the box is 8-985 RP, FORD, and 3 15/16 std. I have searched on the internet but no luck with that number. I don't know of a Ford engine with a 3 15/16 bore! I looked in a Motors repair manual and the only engine I could find that had that size bore is a 1955 Lincoln 341.Thanks for your help, Dale.
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Here is a link to an EBAY auction for and old 1956 Jahns Piston catalog. One of the photos shows 985 H is for a Ford or Merc Y-Block V8 high compression with a dome. Only trouble is that the biggest Y-Block V8 (312) has a 3.80" bore. 3 15/16" is 3.9375". Way too big of an overbore for a 312. Plus your box says Std. bore. Maybe 985 RP is a forged piston for a Lincoln Y-Block 317, 341 or 368 ? I know they made forged pistons too.
Sal https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1956-JA...sAAOSw53NY9k0z |
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Thank you scicala, Mine are 985rp where those are 985h. I measured them and they do measure 3.9375. They appear to be cast pistons from looking at the inside. Thanks again, Dale.
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If it looks like they might be MEL, try over at y blocks forever. There’s several MEL guys there.
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All MEL V8's had bores well over 4" so they can't be for a MEL. I agree they do look like cast pistons and no dome like the 312 Y Block 985 H piston. Since the box says Ford, they have a good chance of being 1955 Lincoln 341 pistons. Like you said, it's the only Ford V8 with that standard bore.
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Shown is an ILL of an early MEL combustion chamber showing unique MEL piston top-
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Correct. MEL's were like 348 and 409 Chevy's, in that the head was flat with no real combustion chamber in the head.
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![]() The 1963 LINC MEL 4V re-design did have combustion chambers in the cylinder heads.
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The 348 Chevy and MEL came out at the same time (about 1958), so they were like each other at the same time.
I didn't realize the '63 Lincoln MEL had combustion chambers. Still learning after all these years. Sal |
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It went to the 58 EDSEL (intro JUL 57). EDIT- Below is a 64 430 CYL HEAD and PISTON-
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I don't suppose these pistons are still available. I am looking for 341 pistons
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deuce 5, thank you for doing your homework before selling the pistons. I frequently find parts on ebay, the sellers of which have no idea what they have.
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It's a 54 but yes
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What's MEL?
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Mercury Edsel Lincoln
A Ford family of engines or parts used in those vehicles. |
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I meant yes, I'm the guy. But no. Mechanic hasn't found any yet. Saw some 368 pistons new for sale but not sure if the 317 will bore out safely to that size
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I have an inquiry to them. Tried Kanter too, they don't have them. Eggy also not
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