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SofaKing · 07-19-2016, 05:43 AM

I put USA kits in my 1939 pu wheel cylinders and three leak, due to corrosion pitting I could not hone-out.

I searched the old threads and they suggest that I should buy new USA wheel cylinders which are available at NAPA and C&G but these threads are years old. NAPA's website has no parts available and C&G only has a right rear.

Does anyone have a current source they have used recently for buying a serviceable set of 4 wheel cylinders?

Has anyone replaced the 1 1/4" cylinder with a 1 3/8" and how did it work? (1 3/8" is available at Rock Auto, whereas 1 1/4" is not)

Is the mis-drilled feed hole still a problem on the chinese stuff?

Thanks.

john in illinois · 07-19-2016, 07:10 AM

Fred at southside obsolete should have NORS.

John

zzlegend · 07-19-2016, 07:14 AM

I had two Chinese repops in the front and both leaked. I found two original wagner's and rebuilt them and no problem since. Used ones are out there, but just be careful about rusty ones. Good luck with yours.

MuskegonFlatheadFan · 07-19-2016, 07:28 AM

Try here; http://www.gaslightauto.com/

JM 35 Sedan · 07-19-2016, 07:40 AM

Check with Richard Lacy @ the Early V8 Garage in Covina, Ca. His business is doing brakes and making brake kits for putting hydraulic brakes on Early Ford V-8's. Very knowledgeable individual.

A bones · 07-19-2016, 09:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SofaKing

I put USA kits in my 1939 pu wheel cylinders and three leak, due to corrosion pitting I could not hone-out.

I searched the old threads and they suggest that I should buy new USA wheel cylinders which are available at NAPA and C&G

Has anyone replaced the 1 1/4" cylinder with a 1 3/8" and how did it work? (1 3/8" is available at Rock Auto, whereas 1 1/4" is not)
Thanks.

Bigger wheel cyl. would give more power at the shoe. It will also be a longer pedal stroke.

barnfind08 · 07-19-2016, 12:07 PM

I have new n.o.r.s raybestos and Ford wheel cylinders 1 1/4x1 fronts and 11/8 x 1 rears $45.00 ea. plus postage

SofaKing · 07-19-2016, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barnfind08

I have new n.o.r.s raybestos and Ford wheel cylinders 1 1/4x1 fronts and 11/8 x 1 rears $45.00 ea. plus postage

I sent you a PM. Thanks for info.

cretin · 07-19-2016, 11:10 PM

I was also looking recently, and found them at Sacramento Vintage Ford.

John R · 07-20-2016, 05:03 PM

The old wheel cylinders can also be sleeved with stainless steel or brass for a permanent no-rust solution. I have been pleased with the stainless sleeving done by Brake and Equipment Warehouse in MN.
http://brakeandequipment.com/.

SofaKing · 07-20-2016, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cretin

I was also looking recently, and found them at Sacramento Vintage Ford.

Did you take them apart, how'd they look inside specific to the brake line feed-hole locations? Do they work ok?

MDC · 07-21-2016, 08:29 PM

All of the brake cylinders were so bad on my 1941 after sitting for 50 years I couldn't even get them apart. I sent them to California to have stainless steel sleeves put in. They came back like brand new and work perfectly. I strongly recommend using the ones that came on your vehicle. Let me know if you want the name of the shop that put in the sleeves.

Charlie Stephens · 07-21-2016, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDC

All of the brake cylinders were so bad on my 1941 after sitting for 50 years I couldn't even get them apart. I sent them to California to have stainless steel sleeves put in. They came back like brand new and work perfectly. I strongly recommend using the ones that came on your vehicle. Let me know if you want the name of the shop that put in the sleeves.

I would like the name of the shop that put in the sleeves. Can you post it?

Charlie Stephens

wga · 07-21-2016, 11:09 PM

Charlie - I used Sierra Specialty for my International pickup master and wheel cylinders,
nice work. They are now closed, and their website lists three other companies.
http://www.brakecylinder.com/

This company is in southern California:
http://www.karpspb.com/sleeving.htm

cretin · 07-22-2016, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SofaKing

Did you take them apart, how'd they look inside specific to the brake line feed-hole locations? Do they work ok?

I haven't taken them apart, and the car is still a project, so I haven't used them yet. Ill open one up this weekend if I can get to it.

rich b · 07-22-2016, 01:44 AM

Last new front cylinders we used leaked like crazy, holes looked to be pretty much in the same location as the original cylinder, checked further and found the piston was thicker than the old ones and pushed the cup too far inward. Milled the slot deeper where the shoe sits to cure the problem.

07-19-2016, 05:43 AM	#1
SofaKing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 756	Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? I put USA kits in my 1939 pu wheel cylinders and three leak, due to corrosion pitting I could not hone-out. I searched the old threads and they suggest that I should buy new USA wheel cylinders which are available at NAPA and C&G but these threads are years old. NAPA's website has no parts available and C&G only has a right rear. Does anyone have a current source they have used recently for buying a serviceable set of 4 wheel cylinders? Has anyone replaced the 1 1/4" cylinder with a 1 3/8" and how did it work? (1 3/8" is available at Rock Auto, whereas 1 1/4" is not) Is the mis-drilled feed hole still a problem on the chinese stuff? Thanks.

07-19-2016, 07:10 AM	#2
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,220	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? Fred at southside obsolete should have NORS. John

07-19-2016, 07:14 AM	#3
zzlegend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reseda, Calif. Posts: 2,191	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? I had two Chinese repops in the front and both leaked. I found two original wagner's and rebuilt them and no problem since. Used ones are out there, but just be careful about rusty ones. Good luck with yours.

07-19-2016, 07:28 AM	#4
MuskegonFlatheadFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Muskegon, MI Posts: 260	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? Try here; http://www.gaslightauto.com/

07-19-2016, 07:40 AM	#5
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,876	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? Check with Richard Lacy @ the Early V8 Garage in Covina, Ca. His business is doing brakes and making brake kits for putting hydraulic brakes on Early Ford V-8's. Very knowledgeable individual. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

07-19-2016, 12:07 PM	#7
barnfind08 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 904	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? I have new n.o.r.s raybestos and Ford wheel cylinders 1 1/4x1 fronts and 11/8 x 1 rears $45.00 ea. plus postage

07-19-2016, 11:10 PM	#9
cretin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: S.F.V. Cali. Posts: 133	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? I was also looking recently, and found them at Sacramento Vintage Ford.

07-20-2016, 05:03 PM	#10
John R Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: near Washington, DC Posts: 589	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? The old wheel cylinders can also be sleeved with stainless steel or brass for a permanent no-rust solution. I have been pleased with the stainless sleeving done by Brake and Equipment Warehouse in MN. http://brakeandequipment.com/. __________________ Those who do not move do not die, but are they not already dead?

07-21-2016, 08:29 PM	#12
MDC Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Illinois Posts: 50	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? All of the brake cylinders were so bad on my 1941 after sitting for 50 years I couldn't even get them apart. I sent them to California to have stainless steel sleeves put in. They came back like brand new and work perfectly. I strongly recommend using the ones that came on your vehicle. Let me know if you want the name of the shop that put in the sleeves.

07-21-2016, 11:09 PM	#14
wga Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Posts: 962	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? Charlie - I used Sierra Specialty for my International pickup master and wheel cylinders, nice work. They are now closed, and their website lists three other companies. http://www.brakecylinder.com/ This company is in southern California: http://www.karpspb.com/sleeving.htm __________________ Henry Ford designed the flathead without the aid of a computer.

07-22-2016, 01:44 AM	#16
rich b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,025	Re: Wheel Cylinders Where Art Though? Last new front cylinders we used leaked like crazy, holes looked to be pretty much in the same location as the original cylinder, checked further and found the piston was thicker than the old ones and pushed the cup too far inward. Milled the slot deeper where the shoe sits to cure the problem.