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Old 03-15-2014, 01:23 AM   #1
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Default Hydraulic Brake Cylinders?

Can anyone Please tell me where these wheel cylinders came from?
I take it was some kind of a retrofit?
Did the use the stock backing plate?
I will be making a replacement for the broken one just would like to know a little more about them

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Old 03-15-2014, 08:25 AM   #2
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They look to be more in the style of a clutch slave cylinder than a wheel cylinder, can you post pictures of the mounting and backing plate
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I agree .
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:30 AM   #4
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Sorry I do not have the backing plates
They have cast letters LF, RF and Rear. You can see the letters in the pic on the side.
They bolt to the back of the backing plate so they must use a wedge to push the shoes apart

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Old 03-15-2014, 10:21 AM   #5
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Interesting ! !
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:30 AM   #6
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Not Model A parts. No idea where these came from.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:15 AM   #7
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Just a question, why would you be making a replacement if you
don't know what they are for?

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Old 03-15-2014, 01:06 PM   #8
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LF is left front of car. RF is right front of car. Take them to a Old School parts store. Someone will probably know what they are.
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:41 PM   #9
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I looked in a NAPA brake catalog with pictures of 272 wheel cylinders
and 101 slave cylinders and none looked like the ones pictures above.

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Old 03-15-2014, 05:05 PM   #10
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Could that be some aftermarket specialty that replaced the top adjustment wedge and housing? This could bolt in it's place and with a special wedge the piston could apply the brakes.

About 20 years ago I looked at a 1930 Model A coupe and asked if it would be for sale. It wasn't but the owner pointed out that it had hydraulic brakes installed years ago because it wasn't allowed on the military base with mechanical brakes. He was getting ready to remove the hydraulic brakes and reinstall the original mechanicals.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:14 PM   #11
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May of put this question in the wrong place Sorry
Found someone that knows
They are on a Model A V8 Hot Rod
Brakes Designed by Tucker is what he said
Backing plate



I am just going to make new ones out of stainless no room to sleeve the old ones
Thanks for looking Bob
I can Post a pic when I finish them if Interested
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:37 PM   #12
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Those brakes are from Kinmont Manufacturing, designed by Joe Milan in the mid-'40's. First car I know that used them was this one, owned by Chicagoan Joe Lencki. The brakes on the Champ car were larger but used the same concept as the ones shown.

Lencki worked as a supervisor at Dodge Chicago where WWII B-29 radial engines were built, had a very inventive mind and was a self taught engineering type. At times Preston Tucker sponsored his racing exploits and Joe worked in Engineering for Preston building the prototype Tuckers. I would expect it was Joe Lencki that brought the Kinmont brakes to Tucker's attention. Oh, and it was when Dodge Chicago vacated the property on the south side of Chicago that Preston Tucker leased it for his ill-fated attempt at automobile building.
Joe is standing in the center of the three gentlemen.

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Old 03-17-2014, 09:59 PM   #13
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Thanks Fordors very informative
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:22 PM   #14
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Been a long time
Stainless does look good

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No doubt that is Kinmont stuff. Do you currently own a full set of Kinmont brakes? IF SO, you may be interested in knowing that complete sets, missing NO parts, can be worth insane, even "stupid" money to some, SERIOUS hot rodders..........Kinmont sets have even been known to change hands in the "five figure" neighborhood. Just sayin' as it sounds as though you may not be fully-aware of what they are. The requisite Kinmont drums shown below, and a link with lots of pertinent info! DD

http://www.hotrod.com/features/1601-...h-and-reality/

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