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Old 05-08-2016, 09:38 AM   #1
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I have just acquired a (Canadian built) 1946 Ford pickup, which has been partially restored.
I am new to the older vehicle technology and looking for information on torque readings, and electrical concerns. As for torque I have just replaced both water pumps and would like to know what torque to use in tightening the four bolts holding the water pump. I have installed a new wiring harness, as the original was non-existent. I am converting the electrical system from 6V to 12V. I have changed all light bulbs; have a new alternator, a new 12V coil. I have also installed three electronic voltage reducers. One on each of the temperature, oil pressure and fuel gages. I believe that the 6V starter will still work. I have not seen any fuse panel and would like some help with locating the fuse panel if there is one. I also need to know what to do with the starter solenoid. Will the 6V solenoid work, or do I need to change it?
I have tried to upload a picture of the pickup and not sure how to do this .

Any help will be appreciated.

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Old 05-08-2016, 11:15 AM   #2
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Sounds like you have a good handle on the situation so far. The starter is fine and so is the solenoid. There was no real fuse panel. You'll see some circuit breakers under the dash. I have installed fuse panels in the past or in-line fuses at times. On my last project, a '46 panel I just kept it all 6 v pos and original. That works fine too, as long as everything is clean and tight and working properly. I'm sure someone will direct you to an older thread where the 12 v subject has been covered at great length. Welcome to the jailbar ford trucks!
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I have just acquired a (Canadian built) 1946 Ford pickup, which has been partially restored.
I am new to the older vehicle technology and looking for information on torque readings, and electrical concerns. As for torque I have just replaced both water pumps and would like to know what torque to use in tightening the four bolts holding the water pump. I have installed a new wiring harness, as the original was non-existent. I am converting the electrical system from 6V to 12V. I have changed all light bulbs; have a new alternator, a new 12V coil. I have also installed three electronic voltage reducers. One on each of the temperature, oil pressure and fuel gages. I believe that the 6V starter will still work. I have not seen any fuse panel and would like some help with locating the fuse panel if there is one. I also need to know what to do with the starter solenoid. Will the 6V solenoid work, or do I need to change it?
I have tried to upload a picture of the pickup and not sure how to do this .

Any help will be appreciated.
One thought about the water pumps, I'm in the camp that uses a stainless steel bolt for the bolt in the water passage and also use anti-seize but that's just my opinion. I'm sure others feel differently. I converted my '39 p/u to 12 volts and I'm running the 6 volt starter with no issues.
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welcome to the "Barn....got pics?? we love pics...lol.....link is to MacVP's website where you can find lots of info...torque settings, wiring diagrams, etc....waterpump bolts. 23-28 ft lbs.....Mike

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ecs32-48V8.htm
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whoops.....see you're trying to upload pics....good luck....Mike
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I have managed to locate a picture
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:54 PM   #8
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Gb Thank you for the info.
I have managed to upload a picture of the back of my instrument cluster. As I indicated in my original post the truck is Canadian.
I was wondering what the three boxes at the end of the cluster are.
They are labled H-B-A I don'tsee these on other clusters. Can you enlighten me on these?
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Wow! That's the genuine article! Nice truck.
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Boeing,

I have your trucks older, 1945, brother. They're twins, well almost. Wish mine had the dual wipers.

Great looking truck.
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:57 AM   #11
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Boeing;
Good job on uploading pic of great looking 46 1/2 PU.
I thought Ford of Canada made Mercury pickups--starting 1946 ---the
first after the war time 1945 Ford 1/2.
Did FMC-CA produce both 1946 Ford and Mercury Commercials 1/2?

Does it have a Canadian serial number? Does the engine have a casting
code beginning with "C" ie C59 Ab, C69 --or cast code of 99?

I'm intrigued by FMC of CA vehicles

Thanks for sharing your pickup!

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Old 05-09-2016, 09:41 AM   #12
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These early Ford trucks are great work horses. Unfortunately, the ride and handle like a truck. AS you've already started modifying it, I guess your not interested in restoring it. To make it a useful vehicle on to days roads you must address the steering , brakes and suspension, tough call. Good luck.
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One thought about the water pumps, I'm in the camp that uses a stainless steel bolt for the bolt in the water passage and also use anti-seize but that's just my opinion. I'm sure others feel differently. I converted my '39 p/u to 12 volts and I'm running the 6 volt starter with no issues.
Believe it or not your actually ment to use some kind of anti-seize on stainless fasteners. If you don't, they can gall up, get stuck and oftentimes snap like a carrot when they do.

Nice pick up new bloke, I do like they 42-47's in green. Looks tidy.
No idea what that business hung of the instrument cluster is, mine ain't got one, and never come across it before.
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Never seen those 3 boxes either. Your instrument panel looks like it's brand new. The brass nuts are still yellow and the wiring is perfect too. Was it stored in a heated building like a fire station?
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Those "boxes" look like circuit breakers and I suspect the letters mean "headlights". Battery and accessories.
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Those "boxes" look like circuit breakers and I suspect the letters mean "headlights". Battery and accessories.
I agree . Looks like the same circuit breaker as used on late 47/48 cars , up on the dash panel instead of on the inside of the firewall.

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Do you have the wiring diagram? It is a little hard to see, but the circuit breaker terminals are labeled top to bottom on the diagram, A, H & B. Starting at the bottom, the B terminal is Battery and has three connections. It connects to the B terminal on the voltage regulator, the Battery terminal on the ignition switch and the lead from the Battery via the amp meter. The H terminal has one connection to the Light Switch. The A terminal has two connections, one to the Light Switch and one to the Stop Light Switch.

If you have already wired the truck and didn't know about or use these connections then you are off on a different path wiring wise. Appears this is not going to be a restoration so might just consider installing a Fuse Panel and wire it up using that.
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The three boxes are circuit breakers. Look the same as the ones on my 48 F-1.
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The three boxes are circuit breakers. Look the same as the ones on my 48 F-1.
Believe there are two CBs, not three (unless someone has added an extra one). The B, H & A are the terminals on the CBs. B is the battery terminal and is common to both CBs, the H and A are the other ends of the terminals on each of the CBs.
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