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TonyM · 12-14-2014, 02:40 PM

Can some one post a photo of the correct type valve stem covers that would be used on 1937 Ford? Back then, as they do now, Ford used Dill valve stem covers. I recently came across these (see photo). I also have regular caps in an old box--they are metal too.

Looking for the correct type. Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Walt Dupont--Me. · 12-14-2014, 04:08 PM

While reading I thought, what to hell is a engine valve stem cover, then looked at the pic and said ooooh. I bet nobody else did that. Walt

Mart · 12-14-2014, 04:10 PM

Well I did too, Walt, I was thinking engine valves.

ora masters · 12-14-2014, 04:24 PM

me too

TonyM · 12-14-2014, 04:48 PM

Alright then, what are they called?

Need some info on the correct type of whatever they are.

Thanks.

Don Rogers · 12-14-2014, 05:57 PM

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You used the correct terminology Valve stem covers or valve stem caps...either is correct. Here are two examples

TonyM · 12-14-2014, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the help Don.

TonyM.

Bruce Lancaster · 12-14-2014, 07:43 PM

If you are interested in this sort of stuff you REALLY need the '37 resto book, which covers this sort of stuff in detail. I've got the '38-9 here, and it says dome topped nickle plated brass.
There is folklore calling for dome tops on wheels and Schrader tool tip for spare, the way many aftermarket valve cap sets were boxed, but this seems to deny that.

tubman · 12-14-2014, 07:47 PM

I hate to rain on your parade, but those pictured look exactly like a set of 4 (albeit in a plastic bubble wrapped card) that I just purchased at Napa to put on our Kia Soul.

Bruce Lancaster · 12-14-2014, 08:24 PM

The ones in post #6 have a glint that looks wrong for nickel and thread areas that look a bit crudely rolled...I'd say the one on right is about what the '38 book calls for but is of very modern manufacturer, and cruder than OEM. All the late models I've put air into have had rubber/plastic caps, though.
The ones in first post appear to be some sort of accessory type with allegation of extra sealing, not what Schrader would have supplied into OEM channels.

ford38v8 · 12-14-2014, 08:41 PM

Don's pic nailed it. All five tires the same, no mix & match.

TonyM · 12-14-2014, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lancaster

If you are interested in this sort of stuff you REALLY need the '37 resto book, which covers this sort of stuff in detail. .

Thanks Bruce. I have the EFV-8 C/A 1937 Ford Book. I have read it several times. There is no illustration of the correct valve stem caps. See page 4-2. There is only a brief description. Thanks.

Terry,OH · 12-15-2014, 07:34 AM

The bottom of page 4-2 LH column, has the written description. Also the clubs other years restoration books may assist (35-36 as well as 38-39) I believe the 38-9 book shows photos as well as the suppliers names one being Schrader. The Schrader usually have their name stamped into them, which is unusual for a supplier to Ford to use their name rather than a code number.

DavidG · 12-15-2014, 10:39 AM

Dill, Schrader, and Bridgeport were all suppliers to the inner tube/tire manufacturers that supplied Ford during that era. All of their caps are of very similar design and appearance like those shown in Don's photos.

It is only in recent years that Ford and the other car companies assumed responsibility for selling, warranting, and servicing tires. For decades one had to deal directly with the tire companies and their retail outlets regarding the tires and tubes on new vehicles. It was a strange policy from the point of view of the customer as the car companies were effectively denying that the tires and tubes were part of the overall vehicle as built. Having the tire valve components marked with the manufacturers' names is consistent with the tires themselves being branded with their manufacturers' names.

Kube · 12-15-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

Don's pic nailed it. All five tires the same, no mix & match.

Absolutely 100% correct!

Kube · 12-15-2014, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubman

I hate to rain on your parade, but those pictured look exactly like a set of 4 (albeit in a plastic bubble wrapped card) that I just purchased at Napa to put on our Kia Soul.

I hate to rain on your parade but you're the guy with a Kia. And you admit that publicly? Rain? Think Typhoon...

Kube · 12-15-2014, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lancaster

There is folklore calling for dome tops on wheels and Schrader tool tip for spare, the way many aftermarket valve cap sets were boxed, but this seems to deny that.

Bingo!

JSeery · 12-15-2014, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube

I hate to rain on your parade but you're the guy with a Kia. And you admit that publicly? Rain? Think Typhoon...

That is funny!!!!

Ronnie · 12-15-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me.

While reading I thought, what to hell is a engine valve stem cover, then looked at the pic and said ooooh. I bet nobody else did that. Walt

Me too Walt "LOL"

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tubman · 12-16-2014, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube

I hate to rain on your parade but you're the guy with a Kia. And you admit that publicly? Rain? Think Typhoon...

Nice! Don't shoot the messenger. Also, don't knock it if you ain't tried it.

BTW, the last thing I would think about doing on this board is criticizing your wife's choice of her daily driver.

12-14-2014, 04:08 PM	#2
Walt Dupont--Me. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gardiner Me. Posts: 4,200	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem covers While reading I thought, what to hell is a engine valve stem cover, then looked at the pic and said ooooh. I bet nobody else did that. Walt

12-14-2014, 04:10 PM	#3
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,088	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem covers Well I did too, Walt, I was thinking engine valves.

12-14-2014, 04:24 PM	#4
ora masters Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: gordonville mo Posts: 519	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem covers me too

12-14-2014, 04:48 PM	#5
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,852	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem covers Alright then, what are they called? Need some info on the correct type of whatever they are. Thanks.

12-14-2014, 07:16 PM	#7
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,852	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps Thanks for the help Don. TonyM.

12-14-2014, 07:43 PM	#8
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps If you are interested in this sort of stuff you REALLY need the '37 resto book, which covers this sort of stuff in detail. I've got the '38-9 here, and it says dome topped nickle plated brass. There is folklore calling for dome tops on wheels and Schrader tool tip for spare, the way many aftermarket valve cap sets were boxed, but this seems to deny that.

12-14-2014, 07:47 PM	#9
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 11,639	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps I hate to rain on your parade, but those pictured look exactly like a set of 4 (albeit in a plastic bubble wrapped card) that I just purchased at Napa to put on our Kia Soul.

12-14-2014, 08:24 PM	#10
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps The ones in post #6 have a glint that looks wrong for nickel and thread areas that look a bit crudely rolled...I'd say the one on right is about what the '38 book calls for but is of very modern manufacturer, and cruder than OEM. All the late models I've put air into have had rubber/plastic caps, though. The ones in first post appear to be some sort of accessory type with allegation of extra sealing, not what Schrader would have supplied into OEM channels.

12-14-2014, 08:41 PM	#11
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 7,286	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps Don's pic nailed it. All five tires the same, no mix & match. __________________ Alan

12-15-2014, 07:34 AM	#13
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,188	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps The bottom of page 4-2 LH column, has the written description. Also the clubs other years restoration books may assist (35-36 as well as 38-39) I believe the 38-9 book shows photos as well as the suppliers names one being Schrader. The Schrader usually have their name stamped into them, which is unusual for a supplier to Ford to use their name rather than a code number.

12-15-2014, 10:39 AM	#14
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,601	Re: 1937 Ford valve stem caps Dill, Schrader, and Bridgeport were all suppliers to the inner tube/tire manufacturers that supplied Ford during that era. All of their caps are of very similar design and appearance like those shown in Don's photos. It is only in recent years that Ford and the other car companies assumed responsibility for selling, warranting, and servicing tires. For decades one had to deal directly with the tire companies and their retail outlets regarding the tires and tubes on new vehicles. It was a strange policy from the point of view of the customer as the car companies were effectively denying that the tires and tubes were part of the overall vehicle as built. Having the tire valve components marked with the manufacturers' names is consistent with the tires themselves being branded with their manufacturers' names.