1928 Tudor door to body installation

[Sly]

Hi its Stefan again,

I am trying to install the assembled doors at the car.

on the top of the door is this final tin bar which closes the top of the door.

The tin bar has a lip on the top.

This lip disables closing the door because it touches the entrance top/body.

The parts are installed correctly.

Any idea?

BR Stefan

[Tom Wesenberg]

Need a picture of the top plate and where it attaches.

It's been some years since I messed with mine and I can't get to it right now, but I just remember screwing it down with no problem.

[Sly]

ok I will send you a picture later , but srewing down is not possible, the gap ist arround 1,5 cm...

[Sly]

Here are the pictures,

001 shows the part with the lip on top of the door

002 door entrance with bar unter the top of body

003 part which is mounted in picture 002

[Bruce_MO]

On my tudor (a '30, but they should be essentially the same), the trim piece that screws on top of the door (i.e., you need to remove it to pull the glass out of the door) is indeed a pretty close fit to the top trim piece in the door frame. In fact, the paint has been rubbed thin in one location, probably from flexing over bumps. I have an unrestored coupe where the metal-to-metal contact over the years has worn away a lot of metal in multiple locations. The rubber bumper at the top of the door opening is intended to prevent this. But there obviously should not be interference such that you can't close the door. Does the belt moulding on the door line up well with the belt moulding on the rest of the body near the door handle? If the door's belt moulding is a lot higher, then you're going to be experiencing problems. I would guess that you either have body alignment and body block/shim problems, or the door hinges are slightly bent. Unless you took the body apart and replaced a lot of wood and the upper roof sections over the doors had been replaced, I would suspect body-to-frame shimming or door hinges. Another issue may be your door is "twisted" a bit. I'd check both sides, and maybe find another tudor and get measurements to compare to your door openings. Good luck.

[Randy in ca]

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After looking at an untouched '28 Tudor Body, it appears to me that you're door cap is sitting much too high at the hinge (?) end (on the left side of your picture. On the doors I checked, the edge of the cap piece is pretty much flush with the lip edge of the door skin - I took a couple of pictures to show what I mean. Also in your picture there appears to be something on the right end that shouldn't even be there(?). Good luck. Let us know if you figure out what the problem is.

[Sly]

Thanks a lot for your detailed support. I will check again.

Is it possible to attach a video here?

BR Stefan

[Sly]

Hi,

I checked everthing, but there is no way to keep both tin brackets mounted ( the one on top of the door and the one in the top of entrance).

The middle dark brown stripe on the doors is in line.

So I removed the bracket in the entrance.

Best regards Stefan

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Sly

Hi,

I checked everthing, but there is no way to keep both tin brackets mounted ( the one on top of the door and the one in the top of entrance).

The middle dark brown stripe on the doors is in line.

So I removed the bracket in the entrance.

Best regards Stefan

I wish I could get to my Tudor to compare, but your top plate on the door doesn't look like it's seated all the way in place.

[Sly]

I know, on the left picture, the left part of the plate does not fiit 100 %, but that does not make the problem.

The richt part and the bump on top of the plate makes it to high.

And the area is screwed down as much as possible.

But at least the looks great.

BR

[Sly]

Bye the way; is it possible to remove the shifting gear stick just by turning it loose or would I have to disassemble more?

Br Stefan

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Sly

Bye the way; is it possible to remove the shifting gear stick just by turning it loose or would I have to disassemble more?

Br Stefan

You need to remove the shift tower, then the spring retainer. I made a special tool to remove the spring, following the picture of the one Vince made. Of the three types special tools I made to remove the spring, this one is the best.

[Sly]

Thanks all and have a nice weekend

..and another picture with completed paint job..

[Tinbasher]

Just a thought. When your screwing in the top plate screws make sure they are not too long as they will damage the outside part of the door. In the window opening area. Also how do your doors fit the opening? Do the body lines line up? Sometimes the door can be too high in the door opening and you'll have to loosen the hinge screws and drop the door down to make things line up. Where is the door frame hitting? At the front of the door or the rear? Looking at the pictures it's hard to tell. If it's hitting at the front and the bodylines are good, you may have to hammer up the front section of the door jam at the "A" pillar.


The Old Tinbasher

[Sly]

Hi there,

as the paint is finished already I decided, to leave it as ist is.

The doors fit and close, I just leave the body door entrance top plate.

BR Stefan