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LopezCarguy · 07-07-2014, 08:08 AM

I was hoping, wishing...wondering if anyone knew of tool/file that is made to restore the grooves on fenders??

Growley bear · 07-07-2014, 08:17 AM

A thread file might work if the pitch was right.

Chet

LopezCarguy · 07-07-2014, 08:21 AM

Chet; Thanks, I will give my thread chaser a look see...would be nice if it would do about a inch of grooves at once...Dick

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 07-07-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LopezCarguy

Chet; Thanks, I will give my thread chaser a look see...would be nice if it would do about a inch of grooves at once...Dick

Dick, a thread file is what most of us use to restore the fender serrations.

An inch long one would not be practical on two points, first there would be contact issues in various locations as some portions are straight and others are curved, and second, when you push a small ½-inch wide file, you realize how tough it can be, ...thus having one twice as wide would be twice as tough to push thru the stroke. Quite honestly, you will find this task goes quite quickly and in less than an hour you will be finished.

d.j. moordigian · 07-07-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Dick, a thread file is what most of us use to restore the fender serrations.

An inch long one would not be practical on two points, first there would be contact issues in various locations as some portions are straight and others are curved, and second, when you push a small ½-inch wide file, you realize how tough it can be, ...thus having one twice as wide would be twice as tough to push thru the stroke. Quite honestly, you will find this task goes quite quickly and in less than an hour you will be finished.

Brent.......lol....how about "squaring" that...

Bill in NJ · 07-07-2014, 07:32 PM

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How many threads per inch ?

Cape Codder · 07-07-2014, 08:11 PM

Although very interested when someone talks about fenders on this forum I must ask, what grooves are you guys talking about?

wrndln · 07-07-2014, 08:28 PM

What they are referring to are the serrations on the bottom of the bead on the outside edge of the front and rear fenders. Just move your fingers along the bottom of the bead and you can feel the small cuts. I believe they were made when the wire was "rolled" into the bead.
Rusty Nelson

ford3 · 07-07-2014, 08:33 PM

the groves on the side of the fender opening, where the metal is folded over to keep the stiff support wire in place,

Gary WA · 07-07-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LopezCarguy

Chet; Thanks, I will give my thread chaser a look see...would be nice if it would do about a inch of grooves at once...Dick

Going for points hey!!! Hi Dick.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-07-2014, 11:29 PM

Vermin's fenders are shiny BLACK & still has the grooves, that fill up with white wax residue. "Maybe" they're NOS fenders??? Some guys prime their fenders HEAVILY, so they don't show. To each his own, sounds like a song title. I like, "TAKE THIS JOB & SHOVE IT", better!
Bill W.

Kevin in NJ · 07-08-2014, 05:47 AM

Like Brent says, it goes quick.

The thread file will try to keep to the old grooves so you just have to overlap the grooves. The grooves can get lost quick under paint so make them deep and keep the coats of paint down.

Bill Underwood · 07-08-2014, 07:59 AM

Not at the shop to look at TPI; I think 18.
But to confirm, mark off an inch and count them.

Cape Codder · 07-08-2014, 09:10 AM

wrndln - Thanks for the explanation about the grooves on the fenders!

Bill in NJ · 07-08-2014, 06:54 PM

It looks like 20 to me, but I could be wrong.

Terry,NJ · 07-08-2014, 07:42 PM

Put a 5/16 - 18 bolt next to them and see how they line up.
Terry

31 RPU · 07-08-2014, 08:17 PM

Take a piece of paper and put over the grooves and take a small dowel rod or pencil and rub across the threads to make an indentation of the grooves in the paper and then measure them. Better than standing on your head...lol

d.j. moordigian · 07-08-2014, 08:22 PM

I'm sure a bunch of you have a "thread gauge" that came with your
tap and die set....that would be the ideal tool to use before picking
up a thread file. Personally, I haven't checked a fender yet....they
could be metric....

LopezCarguy · 07-10-2014, 08:40 AM

Thanks guys, I now have four...four corner files with different thread pitches..will now restore grooves....so all who run fingers under fenders to see if they are original will find grooves...they are original but during restoration you loose some grooves when welding up cracks....

1wonton · 07-10-2014, 09:13 AM

Is this serious? Who on earth would file the little serations in the fender bead, and WHY?

07-07-2014, 08:08 AM	#1
LopezCarguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Lopez Island, Wa. Posts: 276	restoring grooves on fender bead I was hoping, wishing...wondering if anyone knew of tool/file that is made to restore the grooves on fenders?? __________________ The only thing worth learning is what you learn after you know it all !!

07-07-2014, 08:17 AM	#2
Growley bear Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 777	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead A thread file might work if the pitch was right. Chet

07-07-2014, 08:21 AM	#3
LopezCarguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Lopez Island, Wa. Posts: 276	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Chet; Thanks, I will give my thread chaser a look see...would be nice if it would do about a inch of grooves at once...Dick __________________ The only thing worth learning is what you learn after you know it all !!

07-07-2014, 07:32 PM	#6
Bill in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,159	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) How many threads per inch ?

07-07-2014, 08:11 PM	#7
Cape Codder Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,337	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Although very interested when someone talks about fenders on this forum I must ask, what grooves are you guys talking about?

07-07-2014, 08:28 PM	#8
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,297	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead What they are referring to are the serrations on the bottom of the bead on the outside edge of the front and rear fenders. Just move your fingers along the bottom of the bead and you can feel the small cuts. I believe they were made when the wire was "rolled" into the bead. Rusty Nelson

07-07-2014, 08:33 PM	#9
ford3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: oroville calif. Posts: 1,453	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead the groves on the side of the fender opening, where the metal is folded over to keep the stiff support wire in place,

07-07-2014, 11:29 PM	#11
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Vermin's fenders are shiny BLACK & still has the grooves, that fill up with white wax residue. "Maybe" they're NOS fenders??? Some guys prime their fenders HEAVILY, so they don't show. To each his own, sounds like a song title. I like, "TAKE THIS JOB & SHOVE IT", better! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

07-08-2014, 05:47 AM	#12
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Like Brent says, it goes quick. The thread file will try to keep to the old grooves so you just have to overlap the grooves. The grooves can get lost quick under paint so make them deep and keep the coats of paint down.

07-08-2014, 07:59 AM	#13
Bill Underwood Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 445	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Not at the shop to look at TPI; I think 18. But to confirm, mark off an inch and count them.

07-08-2014, 09:10 AM	#14
Cape Codder Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,337	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead wrndln - Thanks for the explanation about the grooves on the fenders!

07-08-2014, 06:54 PM	#15
Bill in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,159	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead It looks like 20 to me, but I could be wrong.

07-08-2014, 07:42 PM	#16
Terry,NJ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Northern Bucks Co. Pa Posts: 632	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Put a 5/16 - 18 bolt next to them and see how they line up. Terry

07-08-2014, 08:17 PM	#17
31 RPU Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 182	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Take a piece of paper and put over the grooves and take a small dowel rod or pencil and rub across the threads to make an indentation of the grooves in the paper and then measure them. Better than standing on your head...lol

07-10-2014, 08:40 AM	#19
LopezCarguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Lopez Island, Wa. Posts: 276	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Thanks guys, I now have four...four corner files with different thread pitches..will now restore grooves....so all who run fingers under fenders to see if they are original will find grooves...they are original but during restoration you loose some grooves when welding up cracks.... __________________ The only thing worth learning is what you learn after you know it all !!

07-10-2014, 09:13 AM	#20
1wonton BANNED Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Vallejo, Ca Posts: 125	Re: restoring grooves on fender bead Is this serious? Who on earth would file the little serations in the fender bead, and WHY?