The Ford Barn

Gino · 03-27-2013, 07:27 PM

Hi, replaced all the necessary brake parts shoes and all. Had a competent old guy set it all up. Then I brought it all back to my garage and put it all back together. I have this scrapping coming from the front pass. I'm not sure if it is brake shoe or metal on metal making the noise. Adjusting does not help and the wheel spins but will stop fast as it slows down. Do you think he shimmed them incorrectly and will it wear in? Thanks for the help and I'll bet you"ll see me here again lol. Gino

Mitch//pa · 03-27-2013, 07:42 PM

make sure it is coming from the r/f as noises travel. drive by someone standing besides the car for them to listen
can you jack it up spin it by hand and get it to make the noise?

Gino · 03-27-2013, 07:57 PM

Yes, it will make the scrapping noise when spun by hand and I can feel when it has resistance. Probably when it hits an imperfection on the drum. ?

Jim Parker Toronto · 03-27-2013, 08:16 PM

It sounds like the drum is too close to the backing plate and could be rubbing. You could either shim out the race in the drum, or the bearing on the spindle.

If you have new drums, make sure they were cut correctly to the inner edge.

If anything is rubbing, you should be able to see the new shine of wear on the rubbing parts, take it apart again, and have a look....

Mitch//pa · 03-27-2013, 08:30 PM

did you remove the drum and look for fresh marks. a metal to metal rub shouldn't be that hard to find
i also like to chamfer the top and bottoms of the brake lining

Gino · 03-27-2013, 08:41 PM

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Yes I believe there is a chamfered, I can slip a piece of paper between the drum and the backing plate, I even carefully sprayed some sand able primer in the drum and on obvious parts but I see no rubbing. The old guy really is competent but he. Just had surgery. He's 89. He said he can look at it in a week or so. Thanks for your help fellas, if you think of anything else lease let me know, it's going to be nice A weather this weekend in the N.East

Purdy Swoft · 03-28-2013, 09:48 AM

Why not take the brake drum off and check it out? Thats what I would do . There is a good possibility that one of the brake springs has come loose and is rubbing on the brake drum. The adjusting wedge cap may have fell of.

jkeesey · 03-28-2013, 10:44 AM

The new brake springs that were produced around 2 years ago were junk, and the suppliers new it. I went around and replaced all the springs on an entire car then went and ate lunch. As we were sitting in our office we heard loud banging coming from the shop and it turned out every one of the long springs had broken. I still dont trust the shiney silver springs, whatever they are made of.

03-27-2013, 07:27 PM	#1
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Tough break, Job Hi, replaced all the necessary brake parts shoes and all. Had a competent old guy set it all up. Then I brought it all back to my garage and put it all back together. I have this scrapping coming from the front pass. I'm not sure if it is brake shoe or metal on metal making the noise. Adjusting does not help and the wheel spins but will stop fast as it slows down. Do you think he shimmed them incorrectly and will it wear in? Thanks for the help and I'll bet you"ll see me here again lol. Gino

03-27-2013, 07:42 PM	#2
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Tough break, Job make sure it is coming from the r/f as noises travel. drive by someone standing besides the car for them to listen can you jack it up spin it by hand and get it to make the noise?

03-27-2013, 07:57 PM	#3
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Re: Tough break, Job Yes, it will make the scrapping noise when spun by hand and I can feel when it has resistance. Probably when it hits an imperfection on the drum. ?

03-27-2013, 08:16 PM	#4
Jim Parker Toronto Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,289	Re: Tough break, Job It sounds like the drum is too close to the backing plate and could be rubbing. You could either shim out the race in the drum, or the bearing on the spindle. If you have new drums, make sure they were cut correctly to the inner edge. If anything is rubbing, you should be able to see the new shine of wear on the rubbing parts, take it apart again, and have a look....

03-27-2013, 08:30 PM	#5
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Tough break, Job did you remove the drum and look for fresh marks. a metal to metal rub shouldn't be that hard to find i also like to chamfer the top and bottoms of the brake lining

03-27-2013, 08:41 PM	#6
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Re: Tough break, Job Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yes I believe there is a chamfered, I can slip a piece of paper between the drum and the backing plate, I even carefully sprayed some sand able primer in the drum and on obvious parts but I see no rubbing. The old guy really is competent but he. Just had surgery. He's 89. He said he can look at it in a week or so. Thanks for your help fellas, if you think of anything else lease let me know, it's going to be nice A weather this weekend in the N.East

03-28-2013, 09:48 AM	#7
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Tough break, Job Why not take the brake drum off and check it out? Thats what I would do . There is a good possibility that one of the brake springs has come loose and is rubbing on the brake drum. The adjusting wedge cap may have fell of.

03-28-2013, 10:44 AM	#8
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: Tough break, Job The new brake springs that were produced around 2 years ago were junk, and the suppliers new it. I went around and replaced all the springs on an entire car then went and ate lunch. As we were sitting in our office we heard loud banging coming from the shop and it turned out every one of the long springs had broken. I still dont trust the shiney silver springs, whatever they are made of.