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Seabees · 12-25-2021, 12:00 PM

Howdy boys, hope you're having a nice Christmas! Ham dinner for us in a few hours.

I'm attempting to rebuild a P3 powerhouse generator that was "restored". Upon opening it up, I found sandblasting material inside the works, in the grease, which was everywhere, worn out original bearings, and I think, missing parts. This is the first powerhouse I've had apart, so I don't know what I'm looking at. I'd like to find a schematic of it, but a search on the net hasn't been fruitful. If any of you know where I might obtain a schematic, exploded view, whatever you want to call it, of the powerhouse generators, please let me know. I can't find any videos of how to rebuild one either. Maybe I'll make one when I find all the parts. Thanks guys, don't eat too much!

al's28/33 · 12-25-2021, 12:20 PM

Merry Christmas there are pictures on old threads if you can use the search feature here. Tom Wesenberg is the guy to talk with about the powerhouse, but he's been awful sick. Let's see if anyone else can come thru.

Gary WA · 12-25-2021, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Seabees

Howdy boys, hope you're having a nice Christmas! Ham dinner for us in a few hours.

I'm attempting to rebuild a P3 powerhouse generator that was "restored". Upon opening it up, I found sandblasting material inside the works, in the grease, which was everywhere, worn out original bearings, and I think, missing parts. This is the first powerhouse I've had apart, so I don't know what I'm looking at. I'd like to find a schematic of it, but a search on the net hasn't been fruitful. If any of you know where I might obtain a schematic, exploded view, whatever you want to call it, of the powerhouse generators, please let me know. I can't find any videos of how to rebuild one either. Maybe I'll make one when I find all the parts. Thanks guys, don't eat too much!

As a fellow Seabee: anything can be fixed "Can Do"! 22yr Seabee BUC!!

Gary WA · 12-25-2021, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seabees

Howdy boys, hope you're having a nice Christmas! Ham dinner for us in a few hours.

I'm attempting to rebuild a P3 powerhouse generator that was "restored". Upon opening it up, I found sandblasting material inside the works, in the grease, which was everywhere, worn out original bearings, and I think, missing parts. This is the first powerhouse I've had apart, so I don't know what I'm looking at. I'd like to find a schematic of it, but a search on the net hasn't been fruitful. If any of you know where I might obtain a schematic, exploded view, whatever you want to call it, of the powerhouse generators, please let me know. I can't find any videos of how to rebuild one either. Maybe I'll make one when I find all the parts. Thanks guys, don't eat too much!

Search on this site: Power house Generator' Tom has a few pictures: look around.

Gary Karr · 12-25-2021, 05:27 PM

The powerhouse generators are actually easy to rebuild. Without seeing your generator, it is hard to tell what it needs, but I recommend that you get sealed bearings which are available. The smaller is the same as the pilot shaft bearing in your flywheel. As long as the brush holder is not broken, you are in good shape. If it is, you may be able to use Super Glue and get it back together. The field coils can be reworked and the armature usually can be repaired if needed. This is all an over-simplification to what you need but as I said, they are really pretty easy to work on.

Seabees · 12-25-2021, 06:25 PM

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updraught · 12-26-2021, 03:01 AM

http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/generator.html
Best I can find

mercman from oz · 12-26-2021, 05:23 AM

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Seabees · 12-26-2021, 07:30 PM

Perfect!! Just what I was looking for! You guys from Down Under came through. Thank you sirs!

Seabees · 12-26-2021, 07:33 PM

Another quick one if I may, I would assume the Dust Cover and Slinger wouldn't be necessary if one were to use a sealed bearing? Thanks guys!

Badpuppy · 12-28-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Seabees

Another quick one if I may, I would assume the Dust Cover and Slinger wouldn't be necessary if one were to use a sealed bearing? Thanks guys!

The New Departure bearings are sealed - probably always have been.

Seabees · 12-28-2021, 10:58 AM

The two I'm working on are both New Departure, but neither are sealed. Surely original.
Just bought new ones today from our local parts house. Timkin. Still, I assume the spring, slinger, etc., doesn't need to go back in. Thanks.

katy · 12-28-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Badpuppy

The New Departure bearings are sealed - probably always have been.

Bearings are typically available in 3 styles, seal on 2 sides, seal on 1 side or no seals.

Badpuppy · 12-29-2021, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by katy

Bearings are typically available in 3 styles, seal on 2 sides, seal on 1 side or no seals.

Do they carry the same number?

Jim Mason · 12-29-2021, 10:38 AM

I'd use them just for correct spacing.

http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/generator.html

katy · 12-29-2021, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Badpuppy

Do they carry the same number?

The basic number is the same but they have different suffixs, see: https://www.skf.com/ca/en/products/r...gnation-system

12-25-2021, 12:00 PM	#1
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 206	Exploded view of powerhouse generator Howdy boys, hope you're having a nice Christmas! Ham dinner for us in a few hours. I'm attempting to rebuild a P3 powerhouse generator that was "restored". Upon opening it up, I found sandblasting material inside the works, in the grease, which was everywhere, worn out original bearings, and I think, missing parts. This is the first powerhouse I've had apart, so I don't know what I'm looking at. I'd like to find a schematic of it, but a search on the net hasn't been fruitful. If any of you know where I might obtain a schematic, exploded view, whatever you want to call it, of the powerhouse generators, please let me know. I can't find any videos of how to rebuild one either. Maybe I'll make one when I find all the parts. Thanks guys, don't eat too much!

12-25-2021, 12:20 PM	#2
al's28/33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 1,595	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator Merry Christmas there are pictures on old threads if you can use the search feature here. Tom Wesenberg is the guy to talk with about the powerhouse, but he's been awful sick. Let's see if anyone else can come thru. __________________ 1928 "A" Phaeton (mid year with many early features) 1933 "V8" Closed-Cab Pickup Truck (originally a Model B, 4 Cylinder dating to May, 1933)

12-25-2021, 05:27 PM	#5
Gary Karr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,488	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator The powerhouse generators are actually easy to rebuild. Without seeing your generator, it is hard to tell what it needs, but I recommend that you get sealed bearings which are available. The smaller is the same as the pilot shaft bearing in your flywheel. As long as the brush holder is not broken, you are in good shape. If it is, you may be able to use Super Glue and get it back together. The field coils can be reworked and the armature usually can be repaired if needed. This is all an over-simplification to what you need but as I said, they are really pretty easy to work on.

12-25-2021, 06:25 PM	#6
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 206	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yes, Seabees Can Do! CM2. Got out after 4 years, wished I'd stayed in. Damn it! I'll figure this thing out, too full of Christmas dinner now to do anything!

12-26-2021, 03:01 AM	#7
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 1,986	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/generator.html Best I can find

12-26-2021, 05:23 AM	#8
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,441	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator \ Power House Generator - Model A Ford - updraught

12-26-2021, 07:30 PM	#9
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 206	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator Perfect!! Just what I was looking for! You guys from Down Under came through. Thank you sirs!

12-26-2021, 07:33 PM	#10
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 206	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator Another quick one if I may, I would assume the Dust Cover and Slinger wouldn't be necessary if one were to use a sealed bearing? Thanks guys!

12-28-2021, 10:58 AM	#12
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 206	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator The two I'm working on are both New Departure, but neither are sealed. Surely original. Just bought new ones today from our local parts house. Timkin. Still, I assume the spring, slinger, etc., doesn't need to go back in. Thanks.

12-29-2021, 10:38 AM	#15
Jim Mason Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 917	Re: Exploded view of powerhouse generator I'd use them just for correct spacing. http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/generator.html __________________ www.jmodela.coffeecup.com Fwiw, jm.