Flathead city, Gary Howard, Grants Pass, Or

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Anyone here have problems with Flathead city?


I talked to him in Jan 2019 a few times and finally ordered a 8ba from him Jan 30 2019. Gave him my credit card number and he said it would be ready in 30 days. It is now June 2 and repeated attempts to contact him with no response.
Anybody have any suggestions. I think he recognizes my number and let's the phone go to message. I leave a message and never get a call back.

[Dave Castle]

Did he charge your account ?

[[email protected]]

Yes, he charged my account the same day and the credit card company wants a copy of his return policy in order to cancel the charge. It never occurred to me to ask for those things since I have never had a problem with any vendors like this.

[Tinker]

Are you close to the shop? Stop by and talk to him. Never heard of a card card not just canceling a charge if disputed. Could report it as fraud to the CC, personally I'd do it after going and talking face to face and no resolve. But I would make a visit. I would have done this before sending any big money.

[flatjack9]

I'm building an engine for a guy who got screwed by this company. Sent him his engine and a bunch of parts and a lot of money and hasn't gotten a thing in over a year and a half now. Not a happy man. I'd steer clear of this outfit.

[expavr]

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

Anyone here have problems with Flathead city?


I talked to him in Jan 2019 a few times and finally ordered a 8ba from him Jan 30 2019. Gave him my credit card number and he said it would be ready in 30 days. It is now June 2 and repeated attempts to contact him with no response.
Anybody have any suggestions. I think he recognizes my number and let's the phone go to message. I leave a message and never get a call back.

FWIW this BBB report doesn’t look good.
https://www.bbb.org/us/or/grants-pas...-1296-22960725

[Ziggster]

Came across this site a few weeks back and thought it looked a bit odd as no parts were really listed. Hope things work out.

[skidmarks]

6/28/18 BBB complaint says his mother died twice.

[Tim Ayers]

I'm sorry to hear about your bad dealings with this company. What I love about this hobby, a lot of it is done on someone's word or a gentleman's agreement. Getting ripped off stinks no matter what.

I hope this works out and you can get your parts back and be made whole again. Good luck.

[chap52]

Where are you located?

Any "Barners" near Grants Pass, Oregon willing to check into this for a fellow Flatheader?

I am no longer in that area, but during the mid-seventies I lived on a mining claim in the woods near Merlin for almost three years. I am certain that there are some old hippies still in the area that visit him for you. Kinda scary as I think about it. Chap

[TJ]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Anyone here have problems with Flathead city?


I talked to him in Jan 2019 a few times and finally ordered a 8ba from him Jan 30 2019. Gave him my credit card number and he said it would be ready in 30 days. It is now June 2 and repeated attempts to contact him with no response.
Anybody have any suggestions. I think he recognizes my number and let's the phone go to message. I leave a message and never get a call back.

If you are a V-8 Club member check your roster for members in the Grants Pass area. Cal them to see what they know about this guy. You might also call Grants Pass Police Dept. to see if they have any info on the guy. Another option is to make contact with the Josephine County District Attorney's office Consumer Fraud division to file a complaint. If this guy has a history it will be known as Grants Pass is not that big.

[Dave Castle]

His return policy should not matter, just dispute the charge as "product never received ".

[D. Jones]

GBM,

I would call the Oregon Department of Justice Consumer Protection Division at
1 877-877-9392 and talk with them. Sometimes a call from them will make things happen. They very well may be aware of him and working a case. At least your call will make them aware of him.

[modeleh]

Bob Drake Ford parts is in Grant’s Pass. Perhaps a call to them might provide some useful information. They had a bulletin board in the store where locals post Ford stuff for sale.

[[email protected]]

Thank you all, I do everything over the phone as I live in Alaska. He still won't answer my calls or texts. I will try each of your suggestions. I may even fly down there. I have kind of a temper when people try to rip me off . I'm not sure a face to face will go well.

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Thank you all, I do everything over the phone as I live in Alaska. He still won't answer my calls or texts. I will try each of your suggestions. I may even fly down there. I have kind of a temper when people try to rip me off . I'm not sure a face to face will go well.

First, I would call the Grants Pass police department and file a charge against him OR at least talk to a detective to see what he suggest. I got scammed years ago on a Pines Winterfront grill. ME and another fellow ended up calling the local sheriff and his investigator could not "officially" charge him (because of the value...$600) BUT through a couple visits and "implied" actions (it took about a month or so) he got two money orders from him for almost all our money back!!!! IF you can get a few others who have suffer the same fate, that helps!!!! PLUS...that much value across state lines "Could" constitute "Federal" charges and interest from larger authority!!!

[Carl]

Originally Posted by rockfla

First, I would call the Grants Pass police department and file a charge against him OR at least talk to a detective to see what he suggest. I got scammed years ago on a Pines Winterfront grill. ME and another fellow ended up calling the local sheriff and his investigator could not "officially" charge him (because of the value...$600) BUT through a couple visits and "implied" actions (it took about a month or so) he got two money orders from him for almost all our money back!!!! IF you can get a few others who have suffer the same fate, that helps!!!! PLUS...that much value across state lines "Could" constitute "Federal" charges and interest from larger authority!!!

Gary Howard...hmm..where have I heard this name before?

[paul2748]

Contact the Secretary of States office, Fraud division. I did this when a Oregon vendor sent the wrong parts and wouldn't refund my money or send me a shipping ticket for a return. The SOS's office got my money back.

[53F250]

Anybody get an engine yet?

Mine should be done soon.

[safeguy150]

I too, have fallen victim to this guy to the tune of just over $7000. I have tried all sorts of Government agencies, BBB, DOJ and Atty General. Everyone seems to think that this is a civil matter between customer and provider. The DOJ got some movement but as all of you know this guy is full of S**t and probably never deliver. My question is, there was one person listed in the BBB complaint section that resolved his issue with Flathead City. Does anyone here happen to know who this person is? If so I would like to talk to him and find out what he did. I have hired an Attorney in Grants Pass OR. and am about ready to spend all it takes to get this guy either locked up or in a legal bind. The problem now is I would never trust a motor that this guy delivers, if anyone knows a person who was successful in beating this crook please let me know