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Old 03-09-2015, 06:21 PM   #1
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Default Boyce Motometer Question - Success! - See #22

I have a Boyce Motometer that I cannot open. It appears to the same as the one on the right in post 16 (Marco's) on this thread:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162056

It seems clear that I should be able to rotate the upper part of the Moto and open it, but I've not been able to rotate it. I haven't forced it....any advice on how I can get it open?

Thanks much
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Old 03-09-2015, 07:14 PM   #2
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Default Re: Boyce Motometer Question

I have the one on the right. it does not rotate, or flip open. It goes on like a regular radiator cap.
A clue is that from the radiator side you can see where it twists into the neck of the radiator on a 30-31.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:44 PM   #3
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Default Re: Boyce Motometer Question

Bob - thanks for responding. Does your also have a hinge? If not, perhaps we have different units.

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Old 03-10-2015, 01:30 AM   #4
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no hinge.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:25 AM   #5
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Here are some pictures. Underneath the "Ford" script is "Motometer G&E Corp Long Island City N.Y. U.S.A." The hinge picture shows the pin driven into the hinge.

I'm afraid that the thermometer has failed - appears that the mercury is indicating a very hot condition though the motometer is at room temp. But I'll deal with that after I get it to open.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:36 AM   #6
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Take the head of the moto meter and shake it, throughout the Mercury downward, it will be good as new
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If it has been sitting, it may just be stuck to the gasket. Squirt a little WD-40 in there, and it should loosen up. Righty tighty-lefty loosey. Be gentle.

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Old 03-10-2015, 11:50 AM   #8
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DO NOT USE WD40!! It is pot metal, and it causes it to swell!
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:54 PM   #9
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Thanks, John.

If not WD40, what would you guys suggest I use for a solvent?

Thanks!
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:25 PM   #10
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WD-40 can cause pot metal to swell. Use some light oil, 3in1 comes to mind, or Kroil. Wd-40 is great for wet distributors or cleaning gas varnish and stickers off of things.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:51 PM   #11
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Thanks, J. How about ZEP?
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:38 PM   #12
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A few years back, I bought a nice motometer with all the re liquid showing just like yours. As we drove home after the swap meet, my friend tapped the bottom of the meter on the side of his tennis shoe, for about 2 hours. The red all went down and has worked great since.
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Sounds as though I need to take it to the (long) meeting I'm going to tonight!
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:55 PM   #14
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The meter should be turned around on the cap, hinge in back, blue oval toward front...
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:06 PM   #15
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That's easy to fix!
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DO NOT USE WD40!! It is pot metal, and it causes it to swell!
I was unaware that WD-40 would cause problems with pot metal castings. Thanks for the education, its much appreciated!

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Old 03-11-2015, 08:46 AM   #17
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I have been able to restore/lower 2 out of 3 original Moto-Meter thermometer fluid levels. First I remove all the screws, rims, gaskets & face plates off the meter. Next I tie about a 3 ft. nylon string to the top of the meter. Then I prepare a bowl of boiling water & a bowl of ice water. I put a leather glove on my right hand, step into the middle of the living room (away from all furniture) and with the opposite end of the nylon string.
Start spinning the meter around and around changing direction at times.
After a minute or two of this I dip the meter stem in the ice water for 30 or 40 seconds then to the bowl of boiling water for appoximately the same
period of time and then back to spinning the meter around & around. Repeating the hot/cold treatments, etc., etc. Once I find the fluid down
I assemble the Moto-Meter and test it on one of my A's. Unfortunately, I
have never been able to get a fluid level down by just tapping on a tire
as suggested by the instructions included with the original Moto-Meters.
After laying on its side for 30, 40 years or more is probably why the Moto-Meter "tire-tapping" idea does not work all the time.

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Old 03-11-2015, 06:01 PM   #18
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Wow - thanks, Bob. If nothing else, one would get some good exercise.

Why is it necessary to remove the screws, trim, gaskets and faces?
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:16 AM   #19
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Pilotdave,

I remove the rims, glass lens, etc. so that I can securely tie the string to the top of the meter. Once you take the meter apart you will see what I mean. It is a lot easier to "spin" the meter this way. Then to try and rig up some kind of sling to hold the meter upright while spinning.

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Thanks, Bob. I'll give this a whirl. [ ]
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