Where EXACTLY is the serial number on the frame?

[Lebowski]

I went to get plates for the Model A today and they wouldn't accept the number on the engine. They said it has to be on the body or the frame. After I got home I drove the left two wheels up on ramps and looked around on the left (driver's side) frame rail and couldn't find any numbers. I've seen some pics of it being on the top of the frame so how is anyone supposed to see it there? Is there anywhere else I can look? Someone suggested in another thread that the body has to be removed from the frame so please don't suggest that because I'll sell it before I do that. Where EXACTLY is the number on the frame? Thanks in advance....

[b ramsey]

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[kwisor]

Hello
mine was under lt fender on top of frame you will need to lossen body and remove fender to find it if there is a lot of paint you will need to wire wheel off to see it behind the motor mount
Kevin
1930 MODEL A TUDOR
1923 MODEL T ROADSTER P/U

[ronn]

Hit a different DMV office.... a lot easier.

[Stinch]

My frame number is located between the left side engine mount and front running board bracket, adjacent to the front body mount. There is no predictable exact location, only a general area. Your results may vary.

[Willie Krash]

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I'm gonna stamp my frame as soon as I find some large number stamps. My guess is they just want to see a number.

[Mitch//pa]

i heard of guys stamping the side frame rail just to appease the dmv

[Lebowski]

I live in a small county NE of Louisville which only has two vehicle registration offices. I can't go to an office outside of the county that I live in. I'll try the other one tomorrow. If that doesn't work I may try to find someone to stamp the number on the bottom or side of the frame rail. I'll let you guys know what happens. Thanks....

[Fred K-OR]

Originally Posted by Lebowski

I live in a small county NE of Louisville which only has two vehicle registration offices. I can't go to an office outside of the county that I live in. I'll try the other one tomorrow. If that doesn't work I may try to find someone to stamp the number on the bottom or side of the frame rail. I'll let you guys know what happens. Thanks....

This sounds like a good plan if you have a number on your title.

[ford3]

the frame # will be any where from the front frame horn to under the body on drivers side, as was stated the fender sits on top of the frame so it has to be removed, get a good wire wheel on a strong drill motor and start cleaning, all the way to bare metal, start looking on top of frame near the steering box, if not there check just in front of the cowl, some times its just under the body, look real close some times they are stamped very light, going by engine # will not help unless its the same as frame #, you do not want two different numbers for one car, get the frame #

[whirnot]

I guess I am lucky, I have a VIN Number on the right firewall.

[Jim Mason]

I have some information on my site.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Jim Mason

I have some information on my site.

This is from Jim's site;



This is the link

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

This is from Jim's site;



This is the link

IMO, that would be inaccurate information, in most cases, in todays model a ownership, i.e.- engines seldom same as when built.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

IMO, that would be inaccurate information, in most cases, in todays model a ownership, i.e.- engines seldom same as when built.

Changing the engine out does not make the information inaccurate.

If I say look at a certain page in a book for a quote and some someone has ripped out that page in your book does that make the information I gave inaccurate?

The picture is an accurate representation of where the serial number should be on a model A made in the US.

[Franchise_24]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Changing the engine out does not make the information inaccurate.

If I say look at a certain page in a book for a quote and some someone has ripped out that page in your book does that make the information I gave inaccurate?

The picture is an accurate representation of where the serial number should be on a model A made in the US.

I think what he probably meant to say was that the information would not match up if the engine was changed out at some point.

[Jim Mason]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

IMO, that would be inaccurate information, in most cases, in todays model a ownership, i.e.- engines seldom same as when built.

And this is why i proved a link to the page rather than just the photo. take a look at the page before you criticize the content as being inaccurate.

http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/numbers.html

Also he asked 'where is the number found' not will the numbers match.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Jim Mason

And this is why i proved a link to the page rather than just the photo. take a look at the page before you criticize the content as being inaccurate.

http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/numbers.html

Also he asked 'where is the number found' not will the numbers match.

Hey Jim,
THANK YOU! That is exactly my point !

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Jim Mason

And this is why i proved a link to the page rather than just the photo. take a look at the page before you criticize the content as being inaccurate.

http://jmodela.coffeecup.com/numbers.html

Also he asked 'where is the number found' not will the numbers match.

The picture was the short answer and on the bottom of the picture is the link as the "rest of the story".

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Lebowski

I went to get plates for the Model A today and they wouldn't accept the number on the engine. They said it has to be on the body or the frame. After I got home I drove the left two wheels up on ramps and looked around on the left (driver's side) frame rail and couldn't find any numbers. I've seen some pics of it being on the top of the frame so how is anyone supposed to see it there? Is there anywhere else I can look? Someone suggested in another thread that the body has to be removed from the frame so please don't suggest that because I'll sell it before I do that. Where EXACTLY is the number on the frame? Thanks in advance....

Hey Lebowski,
Ha, ha..'I'll sell it'...that's rich! Now can you post a pic and price !
Yeah, do a 'search' and this has been discussed (with pictures) endlessly.
The stamped number is approximately (give/take inch)..under the rear hood hold down clamp. I can email you pic, if that will help. Even tho my roadster body is on now, I stamped the exact number from top of frame ...to just below that location ON SIDE OF FRAME.
BTW..start unbolting. Hm, mabe one other way to get 'away' with the engine number....tell dmv that you have MATCHING numbers car and splain that . Hey, they might go for it...as guys buy cars with 'matching numbers'..I'm sure..without removing the body.

Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention...that I pulled the body to get the frame number, after the ca chp...said that that was what they would accept. Good luck