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Old 03-26-2013, 09:53 PM   #1
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Default I don't get it?? Not Model A but old Ford

Although I really like it, is this car really worth 17k??? Maybe it is and I'm just out of the loop.


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Old 03-26-2013, 10:42 PM   #2
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Like you I can't say. It is a fun looking machine, and the patina is very popular today. It does have a lot going for it, but I wouldn't pay it.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:54 PM   #3
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Maybe he wanted one like this? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=308741
In my country that would be cheap but in the USA i guess it might be high priced? headlamp lenses are collectible, transmission is a nice accessory that would cost heaps to get a reproduction (that are made but have modern type internals) i guess he hopes the right buyer with the money finds him & wants to buy it.
It says in the ad that it is not a car made to look like a vintage racer, but it is a car made to look like a vintage racer?
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:17 PM   #4
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He claims:
"without question one of the finest factory stock component Model T’s anywhere."

If you know anything about a "T" engine , it is anything but stock...
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By "stock" i think he means 4 cylinder. Those newer parts are probably a selling point to the kind of guy with alot of money & not alot of tinkering time.
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Worth about 7K tops with all of the work that needs done. I may even be abit generous with that estimate. Rod
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Looks too high a price to me.

It says the magneto has been removed.

Any Model T with a generator and starter wouldn't have come with a magneto anyway, would it?
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Looks too high a price to me.

It says the magneto has been removed.

Any Model T with a generator and starter wouldn't have come with a magneto anyway, would it?
All T's had magnetos. Starters, storage batteries, and generators were introduced on closed cars in Jan 1919 - option on open cars beginning in the summer of that year, and on commercial vehicles (trucks) in 1920-ish
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This owner, like many of us, cannot stop. He restores because he enjoys restoring. And as others have said, he's looking for the willing dollar who doesn't know value if it hit him in the face, and doesn't care - as long as its fun to get hit

Agreed. In Cow Hampshire the price would be the flea market price of the parts, perhaps a grand or two, plus the cost of restoration, but not the labor. I give it about 7K.

I envy him though. With 40 cars he has been restoring for a long time.

Maybe not envy. Getting rid of 40 cars is either price em cheap so they move - or be willing to wait.

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:00 AM   #10
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So far there has been seven different bidders, so that's at least seven people who think it is worth it. I think that for even down here in Australia, it is a bit over priced, but when two or more get into a bidding war to HAVE the item, then prices do tend to go a bit on the high side. Good luck to the seller, and hopefully the winning bidder will be happy too.
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This owner, like many of us, cannot stop. He restores because he enjoys restoring. And as others have said, he's looking for the willing dollar who doesn't know value if it hit him in the face, and doesn't care - as long as its fun to get hit

Agreed. In Cow Hampshire the price would be the flea market price of the parts, perhaps a grand or two, plus the cost of restoration, but not the labor. I give it about 7K.

I envy him though. With 40 cars he has been restoring for a long time.

Maybe not envy. Getting rid of 40 cars is either price em cheap so they move - or be willing to wait.

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A grand or two? I'll be right up to get my rust-free T roadster body!
Yeah. Maybe understated a bit - but we can't tell from the pix his standards of bodywork.

A rust free anything in Cow Hampshire is probably made of plastic.

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Again, what its worth is what a person is willing to pay. Seems aweful high to me, but would sure be a fun car to have just for spinning around on nice weekends. If the steering is original I would be VERY hesitant to drive it over 40mph. T steering leaves a lot to be desired. I had a '26 coupe and if your making a corner a little fast and hit a bump just right, it will throw the wheels instantly into what feels like a 90 degree turn. Made more than one corner on two wheels!
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Getting rid of the magneto is one way to lighten the flywheel as you remove the magnets. Didn't the magnets also help to circulate the oil? If so what do they put in their place to for oil circualtion? Rod
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Didn't the magnets also help to circulate the oil?
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Getting rid of the magneto is one way to lighten the flywheel as you remove the magnets. Didn't the magnets also help to circulate the oil? If so what do they put in their place to for oil circualtion? Rod

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I removed the magnet on the flywheel on my daughter's speedster and installed paddles in place to move the oil. It works very well at moving the oil where an external oil line transfers that oil to the front of the engine pan. I now use a Bosch 009 distributer with an electronic ignition on hers.

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Thanks Brent, I figured there was something to put inplace of the magnets. Rod
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what work to be done? it is a speedster... ready to go it seems... yes it does seem to be a bit high priced... but to some people price does not matter......when you tell people what you have invested in your items, they might have a tendency to cringe...;;;; "you paid that much for that?" different opinions.... So, it will fit some buyers needs.....
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Looks too high a price to me.

It says the magneto has been removed.

Any Model T with a generator and starter wouldn't have come with a magneto anyway, would it?

Yes they would.
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How did you make the engine shiny? No paint i ever saw stays like that, yet it looks like paint.
And the cooling?
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