Used engines

[Russell in Tulsa]

Guys, I am moving my shop this week and find I have either 5 or 6 extra engines needing work and I won't have room in my new place for all of them. I need some help in figuring a price to ask for them. Some are complete from front pulley to the transmission out put shaft. Some have flywheels and clutches and separate trannies. Also a front axle with brakes and shafts. I also have a Gleaner frame and power take off pulley with a hand clutch, one just like Vince has on his site but mine is in three pieces. Help! Please! I need to be out by the 30th. I can haul them to my lake house but only have a couple of dirt floor garages there and don't like that thought of them in a damp environment for too long. And 50 miles away. Any guesses? Thanks a lot.
Russell

[James Rogers]

Russell, I would love to make you an offer but think shipping would make any sale cost prohibitive. I may go to Chickasha in the spring but that is pretty far off.

[Russell in Tulsa]

I will keep you in mind. Maybe by Spring I will have some breathing room and not feel under the gun. Thanks James.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

I price everything I sell @ $977.77 Bill W.

[700rpm]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

I price everything I sell @ $977.77 Bill W.

I'll take the coupe!

[Russell in Tulsa]

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Hey 700rpm, the dog,I think,is included in the price. Right Bill?

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by Russell in Tulsa

Hey 700rpm, the dog,I think,is included in the price. Right Bill?

GRUSSELL,
NO! NO! NO! NO!! What kind of HORRIBLE person do you think I am??? Buster T. Brown, my famed dog, promped me to mispell your name to TICK you off! He also said that he thought all Okies like me were pretty good JOES, but,---------I told him that you might be JOKIN,' but he didn't buy it! (GRRRRRRRR!) He's hopin' for an apology. Bill W.
Buster also said he could outrun your Model A for a block or two 'cause he has Whippitt & Italian Greyhound in his lineage!! His Gramma used to say to him, "MAMMA MIA! that's a dog'a runna' fasta' asa' runner ina' my'a NYLONS!!" Yep, that's a direct quote!!

[Jim Brierley]

Methinks Buster T. is smarter than a lot of us on this board!

[5window]

Originally Posted by Jim Brierley

Methinks Buster T. is smarter than a lot of us on this board!

Well not really. His middle initial is "T". If he really was smart enough to be on this board, his middle initial would be "A".

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by 5window

Well not really. His middle initial is "T". If he really was smart enough to be on this board, his middle initial would be "A".

5window,
Have you forgotten the Buster Brown Shoe ads? "My name is Buster Brown, I live in a shoe, that's my dog TIGHE, he lives in one too!" So, the "T" is for TIGHE! Also could be for TERRIFIC, TREMENDOUS, TERROR, TACTFUL, TRUSTWORTHY, ETC. "What's your NAME??" he just asked. Bill W.

Jim Brierly,
This Dog intimidates ME with his intelligence! Bill W.

[TinCup]

The Sooner club meets for coffee every Monday morning I will let them know about these.

[Roadster62]

I think the location has a big effent on the value of any Model A engine. An engine of unknown condition never got much over $200.00 when I had one to sell. Bob

[Special Coupe Frank]

$200-$400 for a complete engine seems to be the ballpark around here, as-is, internal condition unknown...

( I'm not buying any more engines unless I can pull the head and check the block deck for cracks at the valve-seats... )

[5window]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

5window,
Have you forgotten the Buster Brown Shoe ads? "My name is Buster Brown, I live in a shoe, that's my dog TIGHE, he lives in one too!" So, the "T" is for TIGHE! Also could be for TERRIFIC, TREMENDOUS, TERROR, TACTFUL, TRUSTWORTHY, ETC. "What's your NAME??" he just asked. Bill W.

Jim Brierly,
This Dog intimidates ME with his intelligence! Bill W.

What I meant was, that this is a Model A board. So your dog should be on the Model T board. HaHa?

[Dave in MN]

Hey guys...from my experience... purchasing engines from storage and not a recent take-out from a running car...only about 50% of them are free of water jacket and valve area cracks. Factor adding in the tear-down costs for two engines to get one...I find I can't pay much for them. A recent take-out of a running engine is a different story.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Yes I agree with Dave.

[James Rogers]

Like Brent and Dave, I can only see 50 or 100$ in an unknown engine. If I give 100$ for one and the crank is a worn 20/20 that won't go 30/30 that's out, the block has any kind of crack, I can't sell that to a customer because I just wouldn't, if the cam is worn past regrindable, I don't have anything but a 40$ pile of scrap. Unknown motors are just too much of a krap shoot. I don't offer but 100$ if I can look it over and then, I don't know what I am getting.

[Rowdy]

All of this is talk about engine value is bringing back a scenerio from about 8 or 9 years ago at a local auction. There was a Model A engine with semifresh paint on it in a Ford engine crate at the auction. Two guys I knew both were bidding on it. The final sale price was near $800. The winning bidder was bragging the rest of the day how good of a deal he got on that engine. I ran into him afew months later and asked him about the engine and he got mad. Turns out the engine was cracked clear across the center water passage cyl to cyl. Everything internally was worn out also. I am guessing the engine was put into the crate for return core charge. He has never lived that one down and never paid over $60 for an engine at an auction since. Rod

[cars2cool]

If the seller is willing to stand behind the sale, meaning if the block turns out to be non-useable after a machinists inspection he will give you your money back, I'm willing to go higher in the purchase price. If not, my comfort zone is in the 40 to 50 dollar range. And I don't sell anything until it has been cleaned and pressure tested. And that includes A's, flathead V8's and Y-blocks.

[Special Coupe Frank]

Originally Posted by Dave in MN

Hey guys...from my experience... purchasing engines from storage and not a recent take-out from a running car...only about 50% of them are free of water jacket and valve area cracks. Factor adding in the tear-down costs for two engines to get one...I find I can't pay much for them. A recent take-out of a running engine is a different story.

"Running engine" not always guarantee of internal integrity...

I have two "running engines" with serious deck cracks, one of which still in my Coupe, the other a recent running take-out from a '29 Fordor showing 60k on the odo.

So far my best candidate for a salvageable A engine is a 1930 mill that came out of a doodle-bug , then went "into the shed" for unknown years, and came-out "stuck". After doping the cylinders with MMO for a couple months, she turned, and after pulling the head (80 % of the nuts so eroded, they had no flats left on them!) and cleaning the deck, I finally have one w/o cracks.

Moral: you just don't know what you have until you open them up.

My modest experience.

SC Frank